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  1. HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

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    I was watching Pat Kirwan analysis on cbssportsline.com and he said he talked to recievers from Baltimore and K.C. after the game. Kirwan asked the recievers if they were to play the Colts again, what would they do differently. The recievers responded by saying they would throw deep early and often because the Colts defense are putting everybody in the box and overreacting on every run play. Take it with a grain of salt, but I wouldn't be suprised to see the Pats play action the Colts to death early to set up the run later in the game. Both K.C. and Baltimore tried to run right at them with little success. We shall see.
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    Does this mean...

    Bomb....

    to....




    CHAD JACKSON!?!?!?!!!!!!!!1
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    If Herm Edwards and Brian Billisk had half a brain they would have figured this out. Everyone knew the Colts were going to do whatever it takes to stop the run and they just kept banging their heads against the wall.
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    Two years ago it was Brady's MO to go deep on the first drive, often the first play of the game. Crowd loves it, and it's great when it connects!

    When it doesn't, then 2nd and 10, drop back, hit the WR and pick up the FD...

    Can't wait till tomorrow...
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    There is no doubt that going deep is a good idea. The only good play the Ravens had all week was Clayton going deep, but the moron fumbled after the catch. It could go to Chad, Reche, Gaffney, anybody, but we HAVE to do it.
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    If they throw a few long bombs, I really only see them going to Caldwell or Jackson if he even plays. They are problably the two most capable of going deep.
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    Even if they don't work it will help to get the safeties out of the box and then we would have more of a shot of running it.
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    Remember the last time Brady tried to go deep to Gabriel in end zone.....it got picked off. Maybe he ran the wroong route but there were several colts around him.

    Now I agree on throw first to set up the run. But I think they should spread the field and throw deep if you have single coverage and they have had it in the past with pretty much all the receivers so the opportunity will be there.

    They need to see what Indy is gonna do. And this is where play action will be very useful NEM. The key will be the O-Line again giving Brady enough time for the deep pattern to develop.

    If the Colts are going to bring thr safeties but then they have to try deep. If the safeties go deep then Maroney and Dillon HUGE days.

    This is where the versatility of the tight ends pays off. You can keep them in for protection and shift them to the slot whereby the colts can't substitute personnel and brady would have keymatchups.
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    gaffney has had his opportunities, i believe last week in the end zone and throughout the season.
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    Brady panicked on that play, IMO. He was rolling, scrambling, etc. By his own admission, he forced that one in there.
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    There's a difference between taking shots and trying to force things. That's what happened with Brady to Gabriel. Gabriel was in double if not triple coverage on the play. If that is the case, there is no point in going deep. They should try to see what they can get on the ground.
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    He can definetely go downfield, but he hasn't been able to haul one in yet, and the throws have been pretty good. I think he is so valuable as a posession guy right now. They should run some kind of play where Gaffney runs a 10 yard post, hopefully draw the safeties up, and then go deep to Chad/Reche. If the safety decides to cover the deep ball, throw it to Gaffney for 10 yards.
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    very true, the Jets game showed us the possibilities on deep routes.

    I jsut hope he doesn't fall in love with Watson. this could be a good game for the wendy's boy.
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    I'm sure we'll definitely see something like that, just need to be careful of the sideline routes.
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    Yeah you're right. I just remembered the game against the Texans. Gaffney went deep...

    ....only he dropped it. :(
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    If we took it easy we could have scored on the opening drive, because our running game was getting first downs easy.
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    I agree. I remember thinking to myself "That is the one thing we COULDN'T do on the first drive." Between that and the Rodney injury, the game was over in the first quarter.
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    Sure - why not....but "Shady" Rechee and Gaffney have decent speed as well.
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    Exactly. And probably a big reason the running game was being as successful as it was was because the Colts were triple covering receivers. Their run defense is not good enought to be able to do that and still stop the run.
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    Absoultely, the Pats were moving the ball nicely, cory was running nicely also. I see the Pats being very methodical in this game.

    The fact is.... this is the same old peyton manning offense. what's changed? the running back, that's all.

    Everyone hypes them up to be the best offense of all time, but the fact is they lost to the TEXANS. Lost to Tennesse and JAX. I believe the Pats beat all three of them pretty good. Two of them are physical football teams.

    The defense has played well two week, but let's remember in the past the colts demolished denver to face the pats and ran into a brick wall.

    The same will happen with their defense. BB will find the sore that will be exposed and exploit their several weaknesses. Funny how they say Dungy is a defensive coach.
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    Gee, ask a bunch of WRs what the team should've done, and they all say they should've gone deep more? Wow, what a shock!

    Actually, what I bet we'll see a lot of is the 8-12 yard out pass to Gaffney and Reche. Indy played a lot of Cover 3 shell against the Chiefs, and they'll probably have to repeat that against the Pats to get Sanders in the box. The Cover 3 leaves a lot of room on the sidelines for short routes. Brady and the WRs love that throw, and they have the patience to run that all day, so ... do that for a while and something's got to give. The Colts will either have to switch to a Cover 1 and totally sell out, or they'll have to pull Sanders out of the box and go to the traditional Tampa 2. If the first, go deep. If the second, pound Dilloney at them.
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    I agree with the idea they should spread it out and throw it downfield. Even if you dont connect much ( although I think Brady will at the Dome) you have opened up some room for Dillon and Maroney. Set up the run with the pass, ala 49ers.
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    This is the game that ensures McDaniels the head coaching job for the Raiders.
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    Honestly, I think we can do anything. As long as we execute, the run, short pass, medium pass and long pass should be there. The Colts' defense sucks and can't overplay any phase against us.
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    Why would you wish something so bad on Josh? Do you dislike him that much?
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    Yeah, the first drive for the Patriots just made my heart drop when we threw an interception. All the excitement caused Brady to get overexcited it seems and he went deep. If we were just more patient we could have won that game. I dont remember how much time was remaining in the game when Adam missed the field goal but I remember Brady throwing one very fast downfield for a first down but we werent taking our time and the very next moment the game was over after a tipped interception. But again I do not know how much time we had left. We cannot get too excited and just being far too aggressive way early unless there is reason to do so. If we can throw some short passes for first down and if the running game somehow works out getting first downs, drive down and score without feeling the need for a huge play.
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    Two words... play action.
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    No, the Colts defense is great, haven't you been listening to ESPN?
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    I'm Trusting in Bill. He and his excellent coaches have seen what the
    Colts have done. They will be prepared.

    In his Friday PC he said
    " .. it was a tough week of preparation, but nevertheless I think we got to the point we need to be at, .. "

    That was very encouraging news. His demeanor also looked .. confident.
    They're ready for the Colts.

    Of course anything can happen ... mistakes happen .. refs make game
    changing calls .... but
    PATs will be very competitive for 60 minutes and
    I believe without a doubt that the Colts will have to play one heck of a
    game or be very lucky to win.

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