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  1. drew4008

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    yeah i saw that
    very interesting
    i like him too
    but jeeze
    eight receivers?!?!?!
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    Ted Ginn's days as an elite prospect ended about two months ago. To mention him in the same sentance as Johnson is irresponsible.

    No offense to you, Drew, because I know you're just passing along info, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is old analysis....like before the combine.
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    Who is their source? I think there are exactly 3 guys who know where the real intrest gauge is. It very well could be that McDaniels and the new WR coach love Gonzalez. They might even ask real nice for him to be drafted.

    But when it comes down to it, Scott and Bill are the one whose opinion really counts, and they are not talking to anyone.
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    We know they're inclined to keep Stallworth and Welker.

    We think they're inclined to keep each of Caldwell, Gaffney, Washington, Jackson, and Brown.

    They'd have to really love a guy to add him to the mix, because he'd be taking a roster spot from someone else they'd really like to keep.

    I think.

    One could also argue that anybody else they draft will also push a like-to-keep guy off the roster elsewhere.
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    I was very high on him. But, Gonzo dropped off my list after all the FA WR signings. He will be a very good NFL reciever. I had the Patriots drafting a WR in the later rounds, which is exactly why they will take Gonzo in round one.
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    Yea, he's always been on my short list of WR's for NE as well. His short shuttle and three cone were awsome and I liked him as a receiver, more than I liked Ginn. When I watched OSU games I thought he was their best receiver.

    I still like:
    Meachem
    Gonzo
    Jason Hill
    Steve Smith
    Andrea Allison
    Craig Davis
    Rhema McNight
    Chris Davis
    Courtney Taylor
    David Ball

    My list pre-combine:
    Meachem
    gonzo
    Hill
    Smith
    Allison
    Graig Davis
    Rhema McNight
    Chris Davis
    David Ball
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    I wouldn't mind Gonzo Jr. at all. I think he'll be a money player in the NFL. Drafting a WR in Round 1 will either mean:

    1. CJax destined for PUP for sure, possibly IR.

    2. Caldwell or Gaffney or Washington, one or more is gone

    or, less likely, IMO

    3. Troy is retiring.

    Would likely be #2. What sucks is that the Pats have put themselves in a situation where they have 6 guys, but one is likely retiring this year, and then four of the rest have contracts that essentially expire after this season.

    So they are in a spot where they need another guy locked up longterm, but don't really have the roster room to keep that guy without losing one of the other 5.
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    No problem, that may be.

    And I definitely agree on the Ginn remark, that guy has fallen big time.
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    The article is dated April 1st though, and I STILL think everyone is making too much of these WR signing which are essentially one year deals with big escalators. All we have locked up is Welker pretty much.
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    I hate to get into this again, but BB didn't pick up Welker, Stallworth and Washington this offseason because he likes Gaffney and Caldwell. I think they'll be gone if the aforementioned trio display an ability to pick up the offense over the next few months.
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    Apparently, Ginn will run for scouts on April 12.
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    What does Gonzelez bring that we don't already have?
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    We don't need another WR for THIS season -- but what about '08?

    Washington, Gaffney, Caldwell, and Brown are all iffy for next season. If we apply the unwritten rule that WRs need at least one season to develop, then drafting one now makes sense. And this rule can apply to other positions as well.

    FWIW, Gonzalez was deemed a potential Pats prospect, and an option at #28, long before the Pats reported interest. So, basically -- this is old news. No offense to the thread's author. :)
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    Yeah, but who really cares? Ginn's speed is well known. Does it really matter if he ends up running a 4.34 or a 4.37?

    Hopefully, he'll do a heavy load of positional drills.
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    Yeah, but you can not really put a round 1 guy on the practice squad. If we take a guy in round 1-4 he better be able to beat someone out. Not that I would really mind someone beating out Gaffeny or Washington.

    For 2007 I would say we have 6 chairs for WR. Stallworth gets one for talent, Welker gets one for versitilty, Brown gets one for respect, Jackson gets one for potential, Caldwell gets one for continutiy, that leaves one chair open. Even if Jackson starts out on the PUP, one would hope he comes back and who-ever is keeping his place warm is going have to go.
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    A very smart, fast, quick, good hands, good route route running WR who could be under contract at low dollars for at least the next 4 years.

    I hope this is true. Gonzalez has been my draft darling all year.
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    Hopefully the ability to catch passes in the AFC CHampionship game when he is:

    A) Uncovered on the line of scrimmage; and

    B) Wide open in the end zone.
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    Amen brother!

    In my book the reason the Pats lost the AFC championship game was Reche Caldwell. Say what you will about Indy TE's running wild and that Reche got us passed San Diego, but for my money, he dropped two or three balls and those drops hurt badly.
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    Sure. But our defense also gave up more points in the 2nd half than we had surrendered in an entire game up to that point. Sure, Reche tried to run with the quick hitch before he had it. It would've gone for close to a TD. Of course, his chances would have been enhanced if Brady had seen him right away.

    Really, I look at two plays....The phantom PI call on Hobbs in the end zone, and the obvious PI non-call on Harper (I think it was Harper) in the end zone.

    And I hate making officials or injuries/illnesses convenient excuses, but those two hurt badly.
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    And a third, maybe even bigger call, was the offensive pass interference on Troy Brown (we were going in for 28 - 3 at the time I think and penalties took us out of FG range?). The defender just got the worst of his own bump. I hated that call and it stopped our drive and momentum switched soon after.
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    And you're saying we have no receivers who can do that?
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    Yeah, it looked like Caldwell was out there giving up the 32 points on defense in the second half. Didn't you see him playing linebacker?
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    The only place on the Patriots that is NOT true is at ILB and QB.
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    We have one WR who has proven he can't.

    And yes, I agree with others that the D was really what cost us that game. Just was pointing out in a wiseass-ish way that the bulk of the Pats WR aren't exactly the roster lock studs everyone seems to think they are.
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    bs. everyone one of our WRs has caught a pass in the endzone. We have no WRs who have proven that they cannot.

    What we have are a total set of WRs who have proven that they cannot catch every TD pass thrown to them.

    Making personnel decisions based on one or two games or one or two dropped passes, instead of the body of work, is about the dumbest thing you can do.

    You don't cut Seymour because he whiffed a tackle. You do cut a cut who consistently whiffs and rarely makes tackles.

    If you didn't think Caldwell did well all year long, fine. Everyone has an opinion, and yours is as valid as anyone else's. But guys who are on Caldwell because of a bad game and choose to ignore the fact that he was significant in getting the division crown to begin with are playing with half a deck. And it ain't the aces and face cards, either :D
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    Let's try not to hijack the thread alright? It's about the Pat's interest in A. Gonzalez, not Caldwell. I believe there is already a rather long thread on the latter person who should no longer be named!
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    drafting gonzo, then making him a #2....theres a 0% chance that makes any sense....absolutely no way BB would do that....you know why? b/c BB is not a moron...

    there are 4 receivers, as you said, that are in their contract year...gaffney and caldwell, they were both considered scrub receivers, and thanks to BB, Brady, and the pats organization, both receivers, at least gaffney, who proved to be a key "go to guy" in the playoffs, has had their careers rejuvinated, caldwell and gaffney were both 2nd round draft picks....but never made a name for themselves until Brady started throwing the ball to them....and now that they are in their last year in their contract, assuming welker is the set #3, they will be fighting for that #1/2 spot, given that stallworth injures himself, which is almost a given....they would try a whole lot harder than gonzo will to get open and become a weapon on the offense, and also, they've had a year or half a year with brady, along with 3-4 years in the nfl....

    without brady, caldwell and gaffney are scrubs, so they would do all they can to get that extension...

    gonzo is a great receiver, and by far the best receiver osu had last year, and proved to be a great heads up/go to guy for smith as smith scrambled around, and he would make a good addition to the pats, but not worth #28 in the first round....i like S nelson at 28


    even if the pats draft gonzo, and he stays healthy, he's going to be at the back of the line....
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    lol well put....reche didnt give up 32 points...
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    1. is brown even signed?

    2. i'm sorry, did we all forget gaffney's postseason numbers already??

    postseason -

    week 1 vs Jets - wildcard

    Jabar Gaffney - 8 rec. 104 yards 0 TD (lead the team in rec. and yards)


    week 2 vs Chargers - divisional

    Jabar Gaffney - 10 rec. 103 yards 1 TD (lead the team in rec. and yards)


    week 3 vs Colts - AFCC

    Jabar Gaffney - 3 rec. 37 yards 1 TD (patriots only rec. td)


    if getting 21 receptions 244 yards and 2 TDs, in 3 games is deemed worthy to get cut....

    then every single patriot receiver should be cut, b/c none of them were as productive as gaffney was....oh btw, this was the POSTSEASON,....


    to say you wouldnt mind a rookie beating out the best receiver the pats had in the postseason of the 06 season....

    wow just wow..
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