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  1. DynastyDriven

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    MikeReiss Patriots trading Richard Seymour to the Raiders today, according to a league source. More to come.

    via twitter
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    #24 Jersey

    I just saw that on his blog.

    WTF.
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    Finally someone can start the thread on it.

    Jeez, do we want to keep any 3-time SB winners around?

    This means 4-3 for certain.
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    It will save over $3M on the cap but I think we'll get a lot less in return than many would expect with this being the last year of his contract.

    As I said . . . WTF.
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    What the heck does Oakland have that we'd want for such a prize?

    Presumably their #1 pick? (Not that I wouldn't take Asomugha.)
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    I honestly don't know what we could be getting in return? The only person worth anything is nnamdi but its not going to be for him. LB help? Thomas Howard, Kirk Morrison? Really confused right now!
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    Okay, was about to put the computer away... way away today... NOT ANY MORE! We better get A LOT.
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    The Raiders-Patriots trade connection is getting downright freakish. The best and worst-managed franchises in the league, joined at the hip.
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    Seymour for Nnamdi would be nice.

    Seymour for Morrison and a bit more would be ok.

    Seymour for anyone else unless it's a stupidly good trade, I don't like.
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    Schefter: Pats receive 2011 first rounder.
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2009
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    So we're a significantly worse team in 2009 and 2010 for a 2011 first rounder? wtf?
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    Words. I have none! Except...WWAAAAHHHHH! :cry2::stars2::confused:
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    via twitter, Adam Schefter says its for a 2011 first rounder!
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    i would think it has to be more then that
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    It is VERY worrisome although it's better than I expected. As a FA after this year I was thinking we'd be getting a 3rd round pick or something.
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    A first-rounder two seasons from now? WTF?
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    Why? I don't understand the logic of this move, does 3 million in cap space really mean that much? Maybe the first would have more value in the future, but now who replaces Seymour as somebody who eats 2 blockers and will help with the pass rush.
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    20011 or 2010? There might not even be a 2011 draft. Dumb move if that is the case.
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    The 2011 draft is mandated by the CBA.

    2012 is the first year that might be draft-less.
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    The only thing I can possible think of is besides needing the cap space, we are switching to a true 4-3 defense with Burgess being the starting end. Seymour is a free agent at the end of the season, I would have to think that another move is coming. This does free up a ton of cap space.
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    Well, yeah, seeing as that leaves the Pats at 52. . . .
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    Ok. Well.

    Green has shown in the past that he's capable of holding down Seymour's spot. Everybody was already thinking that the Pats wouldn't be able to hold on to both Seymour and Wilfork after the season. Maybe the thinking is that they'll be ok this year and now Wilfork can be taken care of?
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    That can't be all we are getting. That would be awful. I will sink into a hole of frustration and depression.
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    Well, the odds were that Seymour wasn't going to be on the Pats in 2010 anyway. So it is just 2009.

    Also, this move might set up another move. So we need to see how the dominos fall. I don't like the 2011 draft pick because there might not be a 2011 draft if there is no CBA, but I am waiting to see how this all plays out before I get too upset.
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    All of this 2011 maneuvering is bizarre and fascinating CBA-wise. Is the 2011 season even going to happen?

    Too, too strange.
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    Not sure I understand why all of these trades lately are for 2011 though...is there something about the CBA and uncapped year that makes 2010 a worse draft? Does BB think there's going to be a lockout next year?
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    I have long thought that trading upcoming FA for good picks is a good way to do business. However this is a bit different as we're the SB favorites.
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    Ok, I thought the CBA ended after the 2010 year. My bad. But there could be a lock out for the 2011 season.
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    I'm ok with this move, I was worried it was for less.

    Possibilities:

    1. Kevin Carter joining the team.
    2. Extra money for Wilfork extension.

    Seymour had one year left on his deal, I'm happy with the first rounder.

    Thanks for the memories Richard.
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    well, at least we didn't get JaMarcus! (just joking)

    hmmm...three mil of cap space and a roster spot...i'm waiting for the other shoe to drop...should make a lot of noise...
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