Welcome to PatsFans.com

Patriots' Harrison Thinks Big Ben is One of the Best - One of the Very Best.

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Gatekeeper, Dec 8, 2007.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2007
    Messages:
    58
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

  2. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    24,998
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +39 / 0 / -5

    My Jersey:

    Rodney may have been hit on the head a few times too many this season. I believe his vision is blurred. Besides, when Patriot players make public comments, they are usually to praise their opponents...unlike Steelers players. Your players should take a lesson from those comments by Harrison, Hobbs and Belichick.

    Aren't you from Steelerfever.com?
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2007
  3. TIMEsteelersfan

    TIMEsteelersfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Get a clue Reign... how can you be this lost? Pittsburgh had Porter who ran his mouth in the media... he's like the only one in the past 50 years to talk trash publicly. Anthony Smith... I don't think you'll be hearing anything from his mouth for a while. Pittsburgh is filled with respectful players.

    As for Rodney's comments... he's absolutely right about the way the media rates and attacks players. Though I'm sure he's going out of his way to make sure he provides no nulletin board material.
  4. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2007
    Messages:
    58
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    I have an account there but don't ever really post there. I don't even think I can remember my password.

    Plus, Ben has always been very complimentary of Brady, calling him the best QB in the league even when everyone thought Peyton was the best.
  5. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    24,998
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +39 / 0 / -5

    My Jersey:

    I seem to recall a team that once made hotel reservations in anticipation of Super Bowl dreams...

    "Cancel those reservations...cancel those reservations!!"
  6. Disco Volante

    Disco Volante Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2007
    Messages:
    6,208
    Likes Received:
    13
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    "Oh, they knew. They were calling our stuff out. They knew, especially that first championship game here at Heinz Field. They knew a lot of our calls. There's no question some of their players were calling out some of our stuff."
    -Hines Ward

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
  7. TIMEsteelersfan

    TIMEsteelersfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    1. You act like they're the only team to ever do that. Teams do it every year. If you wait until you win the championship game it's too late to get reservations anywhere. Happens every year,

    2. You act like the players made that decision.

    3. That's totally irrelevent, brought up by the media to creat controversy.

    4. How is that trash talking?
  8. TIMEsteelersfan

    TIMEsteelersfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    How is that talking trash? It's an observation. Find me a quote where a Steeler player bashed another player... outside of Joey Porter. Good luck, because you won't find one. This is a respectful franchise, the Rooney's wouldn't tolerate anything they deemed innappropriate.
  9. Wildo7

    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2007
    Messages:
    8,845
    Likes Received:
    28
    Ratings:
    +31 / 2 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Because he was lying, and basically piling onto the media bandwagon and using it to make an excuse as to why the Steelers lost.

    But I agree, from what I've heard the hotel reservation thing was because the SB was only one week after the AFCCG that year because of 9/11 and all the other four teams had to make reservations also.
  10. TIMEsteelersfan

    TIMEsteelersfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    How do you know he was lying? Were you on the field? If they were calling out our plays he has a right to say that... I wasn't there so I don't know.
  11. Disco Volante

    Disco Volante Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2007
    Messages:
    6,208
    Likes Received:
    13
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Blatantly saying we knew every call, without any evidence what so ever is inexcusable and quite frankly disgusting.

    "TIMEsteelers fan was naked when he made that reply. Oh he was naked."

    I have no evidence to make such a claim, therefore it's erroneous and immature. As was Hines Ward for saying what he said.
  12. mtbykr

    mtbykr Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2004
    Messages:
    2,999
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    I don't think the reservations thing was a big deal or disrespectful....alot of teams do that; in fact i think that was 2001 when there was only a week in-between the AFCC and the Superbowl because of 9/11. However it really did help motivate the pats so i liked it for that reason! The pats used similar motivation in the Superbowl when one of the teams was planning the parade already!

    The Heinz ward comments just shows a sore loser....that's it!
  13. TIMEsteelersfan

    TIMEsteelersfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    C'mon Disco... he was on the field listening to Patriot players calling out our plays. That's his proof... he witnessed it. Did you? I sure didn't?
  14. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    24,998
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +39 / 0 / -5

    My Jersey:

    I think most qb's have a mutual admiration of one another. To me, they typically seem to be the classiest guys. Ben deserves all the accollades he's received to date. He was gutsy last year after that horrible accident and now he's picking up where he left off in 2005.

    Anytime an NFL quarterback is so good that after his rookie year, everyone knows without question that he's the starter is quite an accomplishment. Barring injury, Rothlesburgher is the future of the Steelers...he is that good.
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2007
  15. mtbykr

    mtbykr Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2004
    Messages:
    2,999
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:



    You seem to be an intelligent poster, please stop with this defending though. Ward has no proof and he was piling on during spygate looking for a reason they lost. The pats were calling out their plays i am sure, it's not because of spygate though...it was because of film-study and the fact they were recognizing what the steelers were trying to do. They do this every week, nothings changed.
  16. Wildo7

    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2007
    Messages:
    8,845
    Likes Received:
    28
    Ratings:
    +31 / 2 / -0

    My Jersey:

    because he is on the offense. "Spygate" was about taping DEFENSIVE signals.
  17. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    24,998
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +39 / 0 / -5

    My Jersey:

    Calling out another teams plays would be the result of studying GAME film, not signal film. If Ward said they were calling out Steelers plays, that means he's referring to OFFENSIVE plays, since Ward wouldn't be able to hear unless he was on the field.

    Question: How does taping defensive signals help the Patriots to call out the Steelers OFFENSIVE plays?

    That comment was blatant stupidity.
  18. TIMEsteelersfan

    TIMEsteelersfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    I don't like that he said it, I'm sure it was just sour grapes. However, because he was involved he has the right to say it if he wants too.
  19. TIMEsteelersfan

    TIMEsteelersfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    You're right... you know more about it than Ward does despite not being involved on any level.
  20. bradmahn

    bradmahn Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2006
    Messages:
    2,008
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Use some common sense. And just because he was on the field does not make whatever he has to say true. Bart Scott, Chris McCallister, Samari Rolle, and Derrick Mason were all on the field, and all four of them said something along the lines of the game being fixed. Does that make it true? Do they have the right to say something that is incorrect because they were involved on the field? No. Stupidity is stupidity, regardless of whether or not someone participated "on the field."
  21. mtbykr

    mtbykr Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2004
    Messages:
    2,999
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    I don't remember what he said, but didn't Mike Tomlin rip BB during spygate? If so this game won't be close. Maybe someone can remember what he said.
  22. Joker

    Joker PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2004
    Messages:
    16,127
    Likes Received:
    36
    Ratings:
    +53 / 2 / -1

    My Jersey:

    I could've sworn Greg Lloyd played for the Steelers.
  23. TIMEsteelersfan

    TIMEsteelersfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    You're right, it doesn't make it true because he was on the field. However, it doesn't make it false either. I don't like that he said it, but he's certainly entitled. We should've won that game and we blew it... I'm sure he has some sour grapes about it. You guys should expect this though.. spygate changed the way the NFL world views the Patriots and there's nothing you can do about it except move on. There's a certain ambiguity that's always going to be there from now on... just the way it is.
  24. bradmahn

    bradmahn Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2006
    Messages:
    2,008
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    How can you say "we should've won that game and we blew it" in this thread, but in another you say that in '05 the Steelers were (and I quote) "undoubtedly" the best team? Maybe if the Steelers didn't think they were entitled to victories they wouldn't have sucked in Pittsburgh the only times they've hosted the AFCCG this decade.

    Maybe.
  25. Wildo7

    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2007
    Messages:
    8,845
    Likes Received:
    28
    Ratings:
    +31 / 2 / -0

    My Jersey:

    That doesn't mean that we should just accept the ambiguous view of the Pats in all forms. I think most of us have moved on from it and the irony is that it's mostly other fans that constantly bring it up. I'd say that besides the Ward comment and A Smith (rookie mulligan), the Steelers have been pretty classy. What makes Pats fans incensed is when "spygate" is used as a trump card in all conversation. The Pats have always carried themselves in a classy way (I'm getting real sick of that word lol) and have never talked trash through the media especially before a game, and the fact that most of us Pats fans were forced to look into what "spygate" actually was and I think we channel a lot of the players anger at having to take whatever the media and other teams throw at them because the coach taped defensive signals from the sidelines.
  26. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    24,998
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +39 / 0 / -5

    My Jersey:

    No, it's actually very rarely discussed in the media already. Since everyone knows it wasn't a big deal, it won't linger. After all, how long can opposing fans act so hypocritical? The only ones who consistently hold onto it are typically opposing fans who are sick & tired of watching the Patriots dynasty continue year after year. And now this year they are even better than ever before.

    Surprisingly, fans are even getting frustrated with the frequency which top free agents sign with the Patriots for less than they would with any other team just to get a shot at a title. Why this bothers anyone is beyond me, but it does seem to get under opposing fans skin.
  27. TIMEsteelersfan

    TIMEsteelersfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Let me clarify my stance. When I say we blew I mean that because we were the #1 seed, we were playing at home, we had the leagues best defense, the leagues best rushing attack. Every thing was lined up just like a movie script, then Kordell throws 3 picks and lost us the game. We blew it. You guys cause the picks and deserved to win I don't mean it that way. You were the better team... we had our chance and blew it.
  28. TIMEsteelersfan

    TIMEsteelersfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    It's rarely discussed now that it's been swept under the rug by the NFL. Nobody will ever know if it had an impact or not.. personally I don't think one way or the other. What I do know is that the NFL passed down record fines, then destroyed all the evidence without ever disclosing it... very suspicious behavior. You're crazy if you think it's history already... your championships are tainted in the eyes of many. Not my own though.
  29. bradmahn

    bradmahn Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2006
    Messages:
    2,008
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Fair enough.
  30. mtbykr

    mtbykr Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2004
    Messages:
    2,999
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Just heard it on WEEI:

    "Where there is smoke there is fire, there are rumors out there and they started from something." ---Tomlin


    There was more but that's all i got.

    **just a sidenote, the only playoff contender the steelers have beaten this year is Seattle in Pittsburg
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page