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  1. jmt57

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    With over 1000 comments, the game thread has run its course.

    Place your post-game thoughts, comments and analysis here.
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    Offense looked alright. Lot of missed opportunities and Brady didn't look sharp.

    Could have been very ugly if not for a lucky interception.

    Happy to have a win though
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    same script different game. today however, our defense turned the ball over. basically same game as last week except we didnt get unlucky breaks.

    this is a team that has to get better on defense. if nothing else, id like it if we were able to stop the run like years past. for whatever reason our run defense has disppeared.
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    Liked the offensive balance, potentially losing Mayo is Big if hes gone more than a few weeks. IMO the D is still getting use to the 4-3 but even if and when they do i don't think they have enough talent to make a SB run. Its one thing to stop Cambell its another to stop Rogers or Breas.
    I predicted a 13-3 season, i'm now thinking it'll be more like 10-11 wins Maybe. I just don't think theres enough talent on the Defense to go beyond winning the division. But i digress, it was a good win in a hostile enviorment
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    huh??????????????????????????????????????????????????

    so I take it you thought Mc Faddens 75 yards were a lot BETTER than his previous efforts?

    hello????is this planet Earth????????????????????????????
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    The Pats kept a team that score 69 points over the previous two weeks to 13 points prior to a garbage time TD. We need to stop biatching about the defense over and over again. The defense stepped up and were a big reason for the win.
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    Run, Wes, run you sweet white warrior of touchdown goodness!

    Run to freedom! Run to the end zone! Run for a new contract! And maybe run to the store and get me, like, some of those honey-wheat pretzels, and a six pack, and an ice cream cake!

    :rocker: :rocker:
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    Flawed team and its gonna show down the road.Cant stop anyone.Cant get pressure.Horrific on 3rd down just like last year.Welker is a great little player but i keep saying it over and over that this team needs more production from the wrs on the outside.Brady seems to eye Gronk too much at times.
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    holy krist...post of the year ,Rob...I MEAN it....WTF kind of fanbase is this becoming anyway??????
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    Red zone not important, eh?
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    they had balance on offense that helped the worst defense in the NFL only give up 19 points, im all for runing the football keep it going BB
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    Hey Robo dont give me that.This team cant stop anybody.:mad:BB has to held accountable for assembling this lousy defense.
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    Loved what I saw on both sides today. Defense did get bailed out a couple times in the first half but they were solid in the 2nd half. They'll get there eventually IMO if we get anywhere near full strength. The offense was outstanding. Good balance. They weren't perfect, they didn't blow them out the water but they scored when they needed to. Most important they didn't turn it over and put the defense in tough situations. Sustained some nice drives after Raider scores to slow their momentum and as a bonus they all ended in points. Even when we had to punt we made great on field position.

    Excellent effort by our guys, will need to play better on D to beat the top teams but I bet AH and the corners will help alot.
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    Hey Rayclay, its gonna bite them in the fanny once again!Campbell moved the ball down the field the whole game.
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    Gronk had 1 catch for 15 yards...Brady throwing to him too much??

    This D-Bag is an obvious drunk or a cracked out troll
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    Can't stop anyone? You mean besides the three teams that scored less than the offense so far this year?
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    I have to say that I am excited by what the running game showed today. Yes, it was only the Raiders, (who aren't great against the run to begin with), but it showed the Pats CAN run the ball. They averaged 6.6 YPC for Ridley, BJGE and Woodhead, combined (28 for 185) Though, I was ticked that BO'B telegraphed the plays at the end on that goal line. The least he could have done is spread out some receivers and had Ridley go wide or something.. Give the kid a bit of a chance.

    Raider9175 was right that the Raiders were going to throw Zone at Brady. And Brady enjoyed it. Especially with Welker. They did take away Gronkowski and Branch for all but 1 play, but they couldn't stop Brady and Welker.

    The defense did a good job of limiting McFadden, outside of the one 41-yard play that McFadden reeled off. McFadden did end up with 14 runs for 75 yards, but only 13 for 34 outside of the 41 yard run. They also limited McFadden in the passing game with 4 receptions for 48 yards. This forced the Raiders to rely on Jason Campbell and resulted in 2 Picks.

    Guyton, over-all, stunk today. The only DECENT play he made was when he pushed Kevin Boss enough that Boss' right foot didn't come down in bounds on that TD play.

    Sergio Brown proved he does not belong on the field outside of special teams. The guy has no hustle. The play where Hagan made the catch and Brown flailed and missed him, clapped his hands in frustration, then turned around only to realize that the play was still ongoing is proof positive that he doesn't belong on the field in regular situations.

    If we see Rodney get a phone call tonight on ABC, we'll know it's Belichick calling to ask him if he wants to be "saved" from Tony Dungy. A 38 year old Harrison has to be better than Sergio Brown.
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    Random thought: What a creepy/weird scene it must be inside Al Davis' box at Raider home games. I think I saw cobwebs hanging of some 90 year old lady's nose when CBS showed the box. Very dour looking group.
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    You are absolutely right! I wish the Pats performed like the Jets defense and gave up 34 points, but far less yards. The Pats would have lost because their dominant defense, but it would far more satisfying to know we have a great defense that gives up 34 points than a horrible defense that gave up 19 points to the the same team. :rolleyes:
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    I am a fan ,a die-hard and i am disgusted at how much this defense has regressed.Some of u here need to stop drniking the kool-aid.The d-line is not that great.The QB on the other side always seems to have a clean pocket.I am sick of it!:mad:
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    Something not mentioned at all today.

    Is Mccourty back yet? He wasn't burnt to a crisp today.
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    The Pats DID get pressure today. Did you not see how many times that Jason Campbell was forced to scramble out of the pocket???

    I do agree that the Pats need "more production from the WRs on the outside", but you seem to be missing that Welker has been lining up OUTSIDE a lot. I think a better statement is that the Pats need to have more production from the other WRs...

    The Pats forced the Raiders to punt twice but also had a critical 4th down stop on the goal-line.

    Are they flawed? Yes.. For a variety of reasons. One of which is the lack of a proper off-season. Another is the injuries to Pryor and Wright so early in the season. Not to mention that Brace and Deaderick started the year on the PUP. When you have so many new people on a defense, (not to mention you get rid of your veteran safeties), you are going to be flawed.
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    Happy with the win.

    Posatives:

    No turnovers on O

    Ridley and BJGE ran the bell very well

    Offensive line both run blocked and protected brady well today against a very good and motivated front 4.

    Special consideration to Solder again who is impressing as a rookie.

    Welker... what more can you say.

    Couple more catches for Ocho tonight.

    Defense turned the ball over in a couple of key situations and except for a 41 yarder kept Mcfaden in check most of the day.

    Negatives:

    Pass D once again is this teams weakness (broken record)

    To me it seems like alot of teams are now just throwing deep balls and the pats don't seem to play this very well.

    Brady didn't have his best game accuracy wise but as i said above (no int's)

    I'm starting to wonder if mesko is just an average punter or not. He went ok today don't get me wrong but looking at a truely NFL leading punter up against Mesko, he has a while to go.

    All in all good Road win from the pats... on to the jets next week and as much as i hate to say it, Go ravens this week.
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    344 yerds says they did not stop Campbell this is the worst Defense in the NFL but i still have hope for a SB run
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    The Pats defense made a very positive step today. Are they a great defense. Not even close. But we are 4 weeks into a season that had no offseason where there aren't many good defenses this year. It isn't how the defense is playing on October 2nd, it is how the defense is playing on January 2nd. This defense improved this week and hopefully it will continue to improve every week.
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    Clearly, you don't understand what a "clean pocket" really is..
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    Liked what I saw especially with the balance on offense. Brady did seem off on more than a few throws but it didn't seem to matter.

    They did a good job on gronk, and I agree we will definatley need more help from the receivers on the outside.

    Welker was a beast as usual, this guy wasn't kidding when he said he felt better than ever, they better pay up for him, he is such a hard worker.

    I was also pretty happy with the D tonight. There were a few negatives (looking at you brown and guyton) and yes they gave up a lot of yards again, but at the end of the day its points that matter. And once again they showed how much better they are when the field gets shorter. Great red zone play for the most part.

    Great team win that I saw tonight. A lot of refreshing things ro take away from tonight. Now on to the Jets! The game we've all been waiting for!
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    The Patriots defense stopped Campbell today. More importantly, it stopped Darren McFadden. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that (even from the stupid 99 yard drive at the end of the game).
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