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Sorry. I believe there will be major moves ahead.Obviously not done, but wonder if the biggest moves have already been made.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Sorry. I believe there will be major moves ahead.Obviously not done, but wonder if the biggest moves have already been made.
Not opposed to you being right. We’ll likely have to do some restructures if we want to do so though.Sorry. I believe there will be major moves ahead.
I dunno know. I think they need more talent on D an BB knows it. I see them moving up in the draft to fill that need. LB? DE? Not sure.Not opposed to you being right. We’ll likely have to do some restructures if we want to do so though.
What moves are you expecting could happen?
Would just be curious as to what guys we could land at this point. I do see BB making some more “reclamation project” trades on former high draft picks. But not sure we make a huge name addition there.I dunno know. I think they need more talent on D an BB knows it. I see them moving up in the draft to fill that need. LB? DE? Not sure.
Going in to last year, I thought the roster was nearly flawless. Was proved wrong pretty quick.From many of the posts, I conclude that we should not discuss the state of the team, compared to last year, or perhaps not at all, until the season starts, and perhaps not for a month thereafter.
OBVIOUSLY, it's true that we won't know what the team will be like until 6 weeks into the season.
I wanted to start a discussion of where we are now. I apologize to ken who thought that I would give a full-blown detailed argument. I left that for those wished to do so, or for after we've discussed the issues for awhile.
Usually, summary assessments give us a way to better evaluate new signings, the draft and what to expect. So sure, those who don't want to discuss the team until after the draft, after we see how players look in the pre-season, fine.
For the rest of us, we will speculate, as we have been doing since the SB.
Going in to last year, I thought the roster was nearly flawless. Was proved wrong pretty quick.
You just never know.
Sorry. I believe there will be major moves ahead.
Overall We Are Not As Good As Last Year
Gotta think draft selections will be made at OT, TE, LB, and maybe even RB.As of right now they are worse. They've had too many loses with nobody on the roster that are replaceable.
RB: Hill could be a pleasant surprise which would make the RB's better. Unless the Pats draft someone, the Pats are banking on Hill to make an impact or the RB's are significantly worse. I like Burkhead, but I don't want to see what he did last season where he and Chris Hogan jogs to the sideline, grimaces and then we don't know what the heck is going on. I think Gillisle is a good back but I don't think the Pats are using him correctly. He's not a power back like Jerome Bettis, Eddie George or LaGarrette Blount where they can out muscle their way out of poor blocking. Too many times they lined him up in obvious goaline formations where the defense just crashed the LOS and easily tackled him. I could see the frustration on Gillisle's face.
WR: How will Edelman respond from his injury? Will Chris Hogan catch a few balls and then exit the game? Will Malcolm Mitchell decide to play this year? Brandon Cooks is a really good WR but he can get bullied and taken out of a game. The Pats need the other guys to step up and help out Cooks.
TE: Worse. Dwayne Allen is awful. He gives a few good blocks when he feels like it but he's replaceable. Ebron would've been nice but wasn't banking on him to be the next Hernandez. Apparently, Ebron didn't learn his lesson from the Lions and signed with another team with a bunch of losers.
LT: Most important position on the O-line and they let Solder walk. This will be a huge loss. There's no one on the team that can step in and pick up the slack on a constant basis. Unless you're playing Madden, you can't just let guys like this walk and easily get his replacement in the draft or already on the roster.
DE: Wash. They aren't any better. You can't project Rivers will make them better when you don't even know what you have with him. Don't get me started on Clayborn. He is the Kony Ealy of last year.
LB: Biggest weakness on the team. Very odd that people on this board don't see it as teams kept throwing to their RB's out in the flat all season long and finally caught up to them in the Super Bowl. It looked like I was watching a game of Madden where you could run the same play over and over again and the computer AI can't pick up on it. Hightower coming back helps, but he is at his best when he can rush on 3rd downs. He's a very underrated pass rusher and doesn't do it often because of how bad the LB's are.
Slot CB: If they go with Rowe/Jones, they are just as bad as last year. They need someone else to compete with them.
S: I can't believe Eric Reid is still out there. Vaccaro stinks, Reid would significantly improve the safety position. He played a lot of LB last season with the 9ers. He's the guy BB has been looking for since his infatuation with Tank Williams.
Amen. We can't begin to tell what this squad will look like until July at the earliest.We are always worse at this point because every year the team is different and it takes between 6-8 games to hit our stride.
Nothing personal but the thread is inane.
We do not know how the draft will go or who we will sign that gets cut elsewhere post draft.
As of right now they are worse. They've had too many loses with nobody on the roster that are replaceable.
RB: Hill could be a pleasant surprise which would make the RB's better. Unless the Pats draft someone, the Pats are banking on Hill to make an impact or the RB's are significantly worse. I like Burkhead, but I don't want to see what he did last season where he and Chris Hogan jogs to the sideline, grimaces and then we don't know what the heck is going on. I think Gillisle is a good back but I don't think the Pats are using him correctly. He's not a power back like Jerome Bettis, Eddie George or LaGarrette Blount where they can out muscle their way out of poor blocking. Too many times they lined him up in obvious goaline formations where the defense just crashed the LOS and easily tackled him. I could see the frustration on Gillisle's face.
WR: How will Edelman respond from his injury? Will Chris Hogan catch a few balls and then exit the game? Will Malcolm Mitchell decide to play this year? Brandon Cooks is a really good WR but he can get bullied and taken out of a game. The Pats need the other guys to step up and help out Cooks.
TE: Worse. Dwayne Allen is awful. He gives a few good blocks when he feels like it but he's replaceable. Ebron would've been nice but wasn't banking on him to be the next Hernandez. Apparently, Ebron didn't learn his lesson from the Lions and signed with another team with a bunch of losers.
LT: Most important position on the O-line and they let Solder walk. This will be a huge loss. There's no one on the team that can step in and pick up the slack on a constant basis. Unless you're playing Madden, you can't just let guys like this walk and easily get his replacement in the draft or already on the roster.
DE: Wash. They aren't any better. You can't project Rivers will make them better when you don't even know what you have with him. Don't get me started on Clayborn. He is the Kony Ealy of last year.
LB: Biggest weakness on the team. Very odd that people on this board don't see it as teams kept throwing to their RB's out in the flat all season long and finally caught up to them in the Super Bowl. It looked like I was watching a game of Madden where you could run the same play over and over again and the computer AI can't pick up on it. Hightower coming back helps, but he is at his best when he can rush on 3rd downs. He's a very underrated pass rusher and doesn't do it often because of how bad the LB's are.
Slot CB: If they go with Rowe/Jones, they are just as bad as last year. They need someone else to compete with them.
I’m very concernproud d with the O-line which was already mediocre
A lot of this ends up metastizing in season. IDIOTS were touting 16-0 last year. That lasted a hair over three hours after kickoff, with Edelman the first card to fall.
Then people were panicking that they would be terrible and they ended up with a lead with 5 minutes left in the Super Bowl with their opponent forced into a 4th down in their own territory.
Definitely wonder if all of our big moves are finished, or if a Moss-esque trade will come later in the offseason.
As of right now they are worse. They've had too many loses with nobody on the roster that are replaceable.
RB: Hill could be a pleasant surprise which would make the RB's better. Unless the Pats draft someone, the Pats are banking on Hill to make an impact or the RB's are significantly worse. I like Burkhead, but I don't want to see what he did last season where he and Chris Hogan jogs to the sideline, grimaces and then we don't know what the heck is going on. I think Gillisle is a good back but I don't think the Pats are using him correctly. He's not a power back like Jerome Bettis, Eddie George or LaGarrette Blount where they can out muscle their way out of poor blocking. Too many times they lined him up in obvious goaline formations where the defense just crashed the LOS and easily tackled him. I could see the frustration on Gillisle's face.
WR: How will Edelman respond from his injury? Will Chris Hogan catch a few balls and then exit the game? Will Malcolm Mitchell decide to play this year? Brandon Cooks is a really good WR but he can get bullied and taken out of a game. The Pats need the other guys to step up and help out Cooks.
TE: Worse. Dwayne Allen is awful. He gives a few good blocks when he feels like it but he's replaceable. Ebron would've been nice but wasn't banking on him to be the next Hernandez. Apparently, Ebron didn't learn his lesson from the Lions and signed with another team with a bunch of losers.
LT: Most important position on the O-line and they let Solder walk. This will be a huge loss. There's no one on the team that can step in and pick up the slack on a constant basis. Unless you're playing Madden, you can't just let guys like this walk and easily get his replacement in the draft or already on the roster.
DE: Wash. They aren't any better. You can't project Rivers will make them better when you don't even know what you have with him. Don't get me started on Clayborn. He is the Kony Ealy of last year.
LB: Biggest weakness on the team. Very odd that people on this board don't see it as teams kept throwing to their RB's out in the flat all season long and finally caught up to them in the Super Bowl. It looked like I was watching a game of Madden where you could run the same play over and over again and the computer AI can't pick up on it. Hightower coming back helps, but he is at his best when he can rush on 3rd downs. He's a very underrated pass rusher and doesn't do it often because of how bad the LB's are.
Slot CB: If they go with Rowe/Jones, they are just as bad as last year. They need someone else to compete with them.
S: I can't believe Eric Reid is still out there. Vaccaro stinks, Reid would significantly improve the safety position. He played a lot of LB last season with the 9ers. He's the guy BB has been looking for since his infatuation with Tank Williams.