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    As I'm sure many of us saw today on espn, Ochocinco stood up at a goodell press conference and asked him point blank about the CBA negotiations. Personally I thought it was great, Ochocinco was very professional about it and was very respectful. Anyways, the answer ochocinco received was that "a deal will get done." Do you guys like what ochocinco did and do you think goodell is being genuine with his response?
     
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    I like Chad and I think he was straight forward because most of these guys are not only football players but business men. Just like any person here, when their company has something big going on that might effect them they are naturally interested in what's going on and want to hear it from the top.

    Goodel has the owners interest front and center. I honestly think he gave the feint Mr Ochocinco expected. He is about the 18 game season and more money for the owners and less money for the workers. This world is all about the mf stock holders. It's killing the fabric of society among other things.
     
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    You do understand that the majority of 'the stockholders' are the average guys 401k plan right?
    I never understand how people who think that something good for a publicly traded company is bad for the individual when the owners of that company are the indiviudal.
     
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    You really don't know very much about the real world now do you. The MF stockholders lol.... You mean the people who pay money so that business can run? Do you understand what that means? No, I guess you probably don't.
     
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    What is currently killing the fabric of society is the fact that a huge number of people don't have jobs. They have lost those jobs because countries like China don't give two rats asses about human rights and environmental rules. By playing games with their currency, not carrying about the environment, and treating and paying people like pack animals they have made it much much cheaper to produce goods, while unions here ***** and complain that their workers are underpaid and overworked.

    Or you may be right, the fabric of our society may be ripped apart because we expect the multi-millionaire football players to play 18 game seasons.
     
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    No kidding Sherlock. And yes I am a shareholder and have an excellent 401k and I see first hand how companies run their employees ragged, compromising quality, ethics and service for a few dollars here and there. Shipping jobs overseas and to states where the wages are cheaper seem to be the common theme nowadays. I'm lucky enough to have a job only because I work in a hands on field where a 1-800 number can't do my work for me. But it sure has effected a lot of fellow employees I've known over the years. You people want jobs? Bring back the thousands that are overseas right now. But then you would be compromising the all mighty dollar for the shareholders which is priority 1. Let automation do all the work. Forget about someone live ansering the phone, we'll just keep hitting this number and the pound sign. To many corners have been cut and it seems to be a no win for either side.

    Anyway I apologize to all with the mf term. I've just seen a lot of changing and a lot of turnover that is not to my liking. You too Lawfirm.
     
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    I guess you're part of the problem then right? The problem of mf shareholders? Because if your fund manager is doing his job then he's putting pressure on companies to make greater profits. :)
     
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    Good for 85. Nothing Goodell ever says is sincere.

    As to the comments on stocks et. al, we live in a global economy and automation has been ongoing since the Luddites first protested in the industrial revolution.
     
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    Re: Ochocinco vs. Goodell

    Come on! The players are not blue collar workers working for minimum wage. This a case of millionaires vs. billionaires.

    The fact of the matter is there are valid arguments and greedy self interests on both sides. The current CBA about to expire is bad for the growth of the NFL in the future. The players are taking a stand that is bad for the growth of the league and the owners are asking for too much back. They need to find a middle ground to benefit both. The owners are right about a rookie cap since it many season veterans end up ending their career earlier than they want or have to play for the veteran minimum when they can still provide value because unproven rookies instantly become among the highest paid players in the NFL when they come into the league.

    Neither side really cares about the retired players who didn't make tens of millions playing in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and early 90s. Both pay lip service for PR reasons, but if both organizations had their way without any PR fallout, the old former players who bodies are destroyed and struggling to live on their pension would be screwed by both sides.

    I understand why some people always back the unions and the workers in most disputes with ownership, but the players' union is not a real union. It is a group of mostly really rich people who battle with a group of people who are just significantly richer. The only group who really are the needy people who desperately need aid from a new CBA (former players who played before salaries became huge or were just at the bottom of the roster their entire career) don't have a huge say in the negotiations because the side that is there to defend them have them low on their priorities.
     
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    Agreed. I just want football and the league and players to agree on a financial model that makes long-term sense.

    However, this whole issue lacks perspective. Currently, even the low wage UFAs players are making $150k + or - . In the event of a strike, they need to get on COBRA or find a regular job like us that offers health care or get on unemployment insurance.

    With the exception of the older players who have millions of dollars of medical expenses that were directly attributed to playing in the league, I do have a deep amount of sympathy for them. But for today's owners and players-Nope.
     
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    Well done, Moosekill...the effing unions...public unions, teacher's unions, SEIU. They are certainly bankrupting many states as their bloated pensions are underfunded by billions.
     
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    Re: Ochocinco vs. Goodell

    Does Goodell have the authority to order them into a negotiation?

    Billionaires vs millionaires is right.
    Ocho politely asked the straight, serious question on everyones mind,
    and got standard Goodell boilerplate.
    But, if he can't do anything, what else can he say?
     
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