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Ike, Lansing, MI 02:03 PM ET
The Patriots finished 11-5 this year w/o Tom Brady and missed the playoffs. But the Chargers finished 8-8 and are in the playoffs, do you think the NFL needs to change the playoff format?
Commissioner Roger Goodell, NFL.com
This gets a great deal of consideration each year by our competition committee. The clubs feel the first priority should be to win your division and that ensures you a home playoff game. As you know, teams play different schedules by division, so it is somewhat difficult to compare their record. There's a saying in the league that it's how you play in December and January that dictates your success in the playoffs.
Hey, Roger - The Patriots won all their games in December, might want to think before you type.
(and of course, the same could be said about me: http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...ke-note-recent-firings-page2.html#post1229145 )
Ahhhhhh..he doesn't understand ANYTHING...What a stupid jerk...any more gems???
Why? I don't like Goodell, but the rules are clear: You can't go to the ground in a touchdown celebration.This guy is killing me today:
And a fine for a snow angel the same as throwing a snowball into the crowd?? REALLY Roger...makes a LOT of ...well non-sense...This guy is killing me today:
Gary Sullivan, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada 02:10 PM ET
Why is a "snow angel" illegal? It does not offend. Can there not be a better way to judge "unsportsmanlike conduct" for a celebration?
Commissioner Roger Goodell, NFL.com
Gary, there's no specific rule regarding snow angels. I love watching my daughters make snow angels and I don't fine them. However, NFL rules prohibit any player after a touchdown from going on the ground to celebrate. The competition committee and the membership came to this conclusion after a number of incedents that did not reflect well on the NFL and were not part of the game of football.
While Goodell's comment had no relevance to the original question, so too did "w/o Tom Brady" have any relevance to this debate.
In this case I agree with Goodell, a team's first goal is to win the division. If you can't do that, then you have not one, but two extra opportunities to make the playoffs. So if you don't have the best record among four teams in your division, or one of the two best records among the remaining twelve teams, you don't make the playoffs. I don't see anything wrong with those odds or that concept.
Why? I don't like Goodell, but the rules are clear: You can't go to the ground in a touchdown celebration.
As far as the playoffs go, not sending each division leader to the playoffs is crazy. It is division rilvalries that power the NFL. Winning the division must mean something, and it means a trip to the playoffs. That makes every division game doubly important and fuels rivalries.
Division leaders go to the playoffs. It has to be that way.
If you can't win your division, and you aren't one of the two best teams of the eight remaining, you don't deserve to go to the playoffs. And that's okay.
Time for Pats fans to stop acting like mini-Polians, trying to change the rules because we don't like them.
Goodell is a chump, but whining about the playoff rules because they didn't work in our favor turns us into chumpettes.
Why? I don't like Goodell, but the rules are clear: You can't go to the ground in a touchdown celebration.
As far as the playoffs go, not sending each division leader to the playoffs is crazy. It is division rilvalries that power the NFL. Winning the division must mean something, and it means a trip to the playoffs. That makes every division game doubly important and fuels rivalries.
Division leaders go to the playoffs. It has to be that way.
If you can't win your division, and you aren't one of the two best teams of the eight remaining, you don't deserve to go to the playoffs. And that's okay.
Time for Pats fans to stop acting like mini-Polians, trying to change the rules because we don't like them.
Goodell is a chump, but whining about the playoff rules because they didn't work in our favor turns us into chumpettes.
What I find stupid is that conference record is what allowed Miami to beat us when the league clearly gives teams in the same division different conference schedules based on where you finished the year before. Miami basically gets in over us because our two seeded games were vs Indy and Pitt when theres were vs Texans and Cincy (I believe). So in the conference you play one whole division which is the same but the other games clearly give one team an advantage over the other.
I understand about the playoffs and want to keep them teh same..BUT Goodell's answer was POOR!! His answer was so full of BS...not even funny...shows he's throwing out crap that makes no sense..Why? I don't like Goodell, but the rules are clear: You can't go to the ground in a touchdown celebration.
As far as the playoffs go, not sending each division leader to the playoffs is crazy. It is division rilvalries that power the NFL. Winning the division must mean something, and it means a trip to the playoffs. That makes every division game doubly important and fuels rivalries.
Division leaders go to the playoffs. It has to be that way.
If you can't win your division, and you aren't one of the two best teams of the eight remaining, you don't deserve to go to the playoffs. And that's okay.
Time for Pats fans to stop acting like mini-Polians, trying to change the rules because we don't like them.
Goodell is a chump, but whining about the playoff rules because they didn't work in our favor turns us into chumpettes.
Like others, Goodell stresses the importance of winning the division as an explination for the leagues current playoff format.
What I dont understand is why can't the NFL be restructured in a way that both rewards division winners but also ensures the best teams get in.
The current problem isnt with rewarding division winners, but that divisions are only made up of 4 teams. As a result, huge rewards (eg at least 1 home playoff game) are given to teams that beat out only 3 others. Undoubtedly, this will result in mediocre teams repeatedly getting in with a home game.
Likewise, it is illogical to place that much emphasis on winning small divisions, when only 6 divisional games are played. This is what allows teams to have poor records, but get in.
As a result, we get the following illogical results:
1. The pats were likely either going to get the 3 seed or be out entirely.
2. With one more win, they may have had a first round bye.
3. Every year, teams with great regular seasons (maybe second best in the league) will likely have to play all games on the road to get to the super bowl.
4. 12-4 colts at 8-8 charges, while 12-4 Pitt is at home resting
There are a large number of ways to remedy or at least mask this situation that also stress (and perhaps more so stress) the importance of winning your division.
End of rant.
Indeed, would a winning record be too much to ask?
just go 9-7 and you're fine.
A team could go 3-13 and win their division. What's next, will they host a 12-4 team in the first round?
Stop with the 3-13 already. It's never happened, and it's not going to happen anytime soon, if ever. It's the equivalent of the infinite number of monkeys typing on an infinite number of keyboards.
On the other hand, teams have gone in as wild cards at 8-8. Having your 9-7 requirement would destroy the format because there would be times when you couldn't put 6 teams in the playoffs.