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    Don't know if it is purely speculation, rumors, or inside sources; but according to Matt Williamson at ESPN say that the Pats are going to actively pursue Mario Williams if the Texans let him go. From the article:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/59757/getting-your-early-2012-nfl-free-agency-fix
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    It is probably speculation, but it may not be. Just figured I would post it.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Would be fun:D
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    On second thought, you may, er, might be right.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Gosh..I hope it's just speculation....Pats need to spend money on Wes before they even consider chasing Williams...spread the wealth around...let's not get top heavy with too many rich contracts...a couple of second tier players to help would be better insurance.....
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    They better. I feel like this offseason will be a failure if they don't sign 1 big FA pass defender whether its Williams, Carr, or Finnegan.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Honestly, unless a rumor/story is mentioned by someone I respect (like Reiss), I'm going to be pretty hesitant to believe it. The Pats are just so tight-lipped. Remember when they signed Rodney Harrison?
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Mario Williams: pass defender?
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Oh we don't want Finnegan.. He's like Landry.. all name
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    I am not sure the Patriots should just push Cunningham aside, he had an off year but is a 2nd round pick...





    Just some offseason humor.... Sign the beast.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    He's right. Unlike Julius Peppers and [ahem] AdT and Derrick Burgess, both of whom BB broke the bank for so to speak, Williams has experience playing both DE and OLB. With all the different alignments and subs we are running, having a guy versatile and talented enough to play every down for a change would be a godsend.

    And screw trying to find the next McGinest-type via the the draft--even BB doesn't seem to think it's possible. Plugging in an every down OLB/DE with Williams' ability could make this defense dominant immediately. If Williams becomes available, it's a no-brainer for the Pats to take a hard look at him.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Having a top-heavy, star-studded roster is great......so long as nobody gets injured. If they stay healthy, a lineup like that probably will win it all.

    Of course, that's a huge gamble.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    They can afford both and still have room to spare.

    And frankly, if you want a good defense, you have to spend money at some point--whether it's re-signing good players, using first round picks, or signing free agents.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Sign him, he would immediately improve the pass rush and is versatile - DE, OLB, DT, 3-4, 4-3, he could play every down.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    As they should be. Mario Williams pretty much solves our problems on D.

    Cortland Finnegan? Are you kidding? I wouldn't want that dbag on my team for vet minimum.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    The thing about signing someone like Mario Williams is that psychologically, it brings the wow factor on defense. All of a sudden you have Wilfork, Mayo, Spikes, Williams so on and so forth. In a strange sense of the manner, it provides legitimacy that the defense may actually be good.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Haha, fine forget Finnegan then. If the Pats don't sign either Williams or Carr this offseason then they're going to come up short again next year imo.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    If there's anybody I'd break the bank for it's this guy. No offense but screw Mike Wallace and Vincent Jackson. Defenses will still find a way to neutralize that offense in January. It all starts up front and it all starts on D. Regardless of our DB issues, if we have Mario and VW on the line to go along with our budding LB crew this defense is returning to 2003/2004 form.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    It's exceedingly rare that the combination of team need, team fit, age, and caliber of player all line up. They do here.

    If there is ever a time to spend the cap space, it is here. Mario can play almost any position in the front 7 in both 34 and 43 schemes except NT. I think Ninkovich is a pretty good player, but Williams would be a substantial upgrade to the other side of the line as OLB, and would obviously be the best DE the team has scene since the Seymour of 2006 and prior.

    Unless Williams gets a crazy deal like 6/120 somewhere, sign him.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    This is clearly just the guy from Scouts Inc. offering his take on what NFCW teams should be doing. We got thrown in to counter the idea that Seattle should persue him because this guy doesn't believe they should while Sando apparently does.

    I do have a soft spot for Sando though. He's the guy who blew the whistle on Borges' plagerism...
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    no thanks....
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    They may be able to afford both, but I'm not sure about the "room to spare" part. They still need 6-7 starting caliber players, lots of depth throughout the roster, including a backup QB and both of their ST aces.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Burgess had experience as a DE and OLB too. His problem wasn't fit, though- it was that he just wasn't very good. There's a reason he hasn't played since.

    As for Williams, I would absolutely love to have him on the Pats, but not for the money that he's going to get from someone else. He'd have to leave a ton of money on the table, IMO, to be a good signing for us. I'd rather the Pats sign a few $5-6M per year players at positions of need (DE, OLB, S, WR, wherever we end up having need on the OL) than one $16-18M per guy.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    And who is Matt Williamson??
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    A scout. Williamson rarely says anything I find questionable as a scout. Not sure how reliable his contacts are, but as far as knowing the game he's really good.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    I don't know the details, but I think the cap really shoots up in 2014. So the Pats would have to kind of suck it up for 2 years if they broke the bank for Williams, because in 2014 there should be a lot of extra space.

    Can they work it out for 2 years? I bet they can. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to make a real run at him. They need him. Badly. They have the opportunity to get him. They have the $$ available.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    He would be nice to have, but they don't NEED him. They can use that load of cap money many different ways, quite a few of which would make the overall team better than one player would.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Andy,

    You are right with the depth in the draft. and Mario's injury history I would not dump 10M per year into the guy. would rather find them in the draft.
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    Re: Matt Williamson: The Pats will be "really involved" in trying to get Mario Willi

    Williams sounds great, but the injuries are a concern. This is the time of year when BB starts cranking up the DeWayne Robertson Memorial Smokescreen Machine.
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