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    here are my initial thoughts
    1.Play field position. Jets thrive on their punt and kickof returns to not drive a long distance so its important to play good field position with miller and co.
    2.Effective 1st down defense. Jets seem to use a a lot of short passing and quick runs with washington to keep the down and distance minimum for pennington. He is very effective in that kinda game and it becomes very important for us to get them stopped on first downs.
    3.Related to above, limit YAC. which means we need to tackle better than we have done this season, without trying those upper body hits like samuel does it sometimes.
    4.Offensively, start fast and play from ahead. Jets are good if the games are close but iam not sure how good they are coming back from 10-14 pt deficits.Of course start fast applies against any opponent but especially against the jets.A close game is an advantage to jets although i think it will be like that .
    5.Run the ball more. Jets seem to be susceptible against run and we should just run it more and more .No need to try those cute reverses until needed.I feel a simpler game plan will be effective against this team than trying too many things.
    6.Handle the blitzes. Last time we saw those free runners right up the middle to hit brady. We need to stop those.
    7.As usual, key factor - turnovers . Protect the ball(yes watson you too).
    8.Never been to gillette but i hope its LOUD this sunday..


    thoughts ?
     
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    The only two keys for me are turnovers and 3rd down defense.

    Turnovers are obvious, one of the way a lesser team can win any game. And Pennington just drives me nuts with those little 3rd and 7s for 8 yards. And he will get plenty of 3rd and longs. Solid 3rd down defense and The Jest has no chance.
     
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    I agree on the turnovers but I think the big key will be short down defense. We had so much trouble with them in the second game this season because they were picking up decent yardage on 1st down, which opened up their options for the two following downs and kept them out of predictable situations. I think getting 5-6 yards on first down is what their entire offense is based on.
     
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    Not a bad list at all. I might add the following:

    1. Pressure the rookie o-linemen. Try to confuse them and get them out of position.

    2. Maintain discipline on screens, shovel passes, etc. The Jets have done a great job getting big gains on those plays.

    3. Related to the above: Get pressure with the front 3 allowing the lb's to stay at home and stop the screens, etc as well as drop into coverage and handle the short passing game to the wr's.
     
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    On the blitzs, hopefully Brady has a better awareness of Kerry Rhodes and his speed off the edge - getting his clock cleaned on back-to-back blitzs that looked the same on my TV screen is a little 'embarassking'...
     
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    maybe mangini is using rhodes as pats use harrison ? i have heard a lot of opponents who said in the past that its important to find out where is harrison.
     
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    I'd say against the Jets it comes down to two things: make plays on 3rd down and finish your tackles.

    If you watch both Jets games from the regular season, their bread and butter was pulling off short pass plays on 3rd and 4-7 to go for 1st downs. Our CBs have had a particularly difficult time tackling Coles and Cotchery in those situations. A disciplined game from Samuel is absolutely essential here.

    On offense we need to keep doing what we've done the past 3 weeks, utilize the short pass to beat the rush and set up 2nd and short. The run game shouldn't be forced, rather it should naturally develop as an after effect of a good short passing game.
     
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    The reason why the run game can 'look bad' is because safeties have been cheating up to the line on a regular basis.

    Its possible that those deep throws to Reche might dissuade that ploy, but I think we need to throw deep successfully to open up the run game.

    Brady hasn't been his usual robotic self in terms of accuracy this year but he looked very assured in the pocket last couple of games - I genuinely believe his form is peaking at the perfect time.

    We should get too carried away by what we seen against the Titans in terms of rushing offense - they are a terrible run D unit - but we have to remain balanced against the Jets.

    If we get up by 10 points this game is over.

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    he has but we have faced the jags and titans ..not really exotic blitz or defensive teams. jags only pressure with front 4 which wasnt too much for brady and the titans , not sure how much they blitzed but iam sure the jets scheme will be a lot more tougher...very key for our o line this week to fix the protections.
     
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    There has to be a downside to all this blitzing otherwise teams would do it all the time, right?

    Im sure Brady has been one of the elite in combating this defensive technique because of his ability to think on his feet under intense pressure.

    I would have thought screens of the WR/TE/RB variety might be the order of the day to punish an over aggresive D - if the brainstrust feel the need to gameplan a solution to this problem.

    I think our O-Line can step it up.

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    I'd like to see the Patriots go 3 and 4 wide with alot of shotgun. that has been their most effective way to counter blitzes this year with these players.

    Mangini's only way to beat us is to beat Brady ... he got lucky with turnovers this year and Brady is to tough to let mangini beat him.

    As far as defense ... no need to change much ... the Jets offense is not strong enough to beat our defense ... bend and don't break with our great from 7 will be enough.
     
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    Hey, I hope so too.

    Maybe we have become spoilt by Tom metronomic accuracy in recent years - most fans would kill to have a QB that completed such a good % and at such key moments.

    Maybe they can work Jackson into the mix other than those quick hitch passes that get Chad nailed within 0.2 sec of catching the ball - all that is gonna happen there is a fumble.

    I wonder why the oppositions defenses have read this play with such success this year?

    Maybe it only seems like that.

    I agree - we have too much on both sides of the ball for NY.

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    So did you learn all this by playing Madden football or listening to him broadcast a game?
     
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    yeah brady usually has a good sense of blitz pickup in the past and we used to call out the right plays but this season with our new receiving core(there i had to say it again) its been a bit difficult. also not all teams have the players/speed or scheme to just run a blitz. Jags are a good example. That defense is just too easy for a pats team because we block well with inside tackles. its good DE's and pass rushers from the secondary who have given us trouble.
    brady did mention after the jets game that we could not hit one play which wouldve stopped the blitzing . So we can do that early on sunday it might just open up things for us.
     
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    neither ...
     
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    Do us all a favor and leave the catty personal attcks off the thread.

    Its getting harder and harder to get any sort of momentum into a football thread recently - you'd think we were 2-14 with the general mood round this place.

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    Play physical, tackle and block well, win the LOS battles, no turnovers or stupid penalties, execute the gameplan, you win the game.

    Football is easy.
     
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    We are much the better team. For me the keys are:

    1) Protect Brady with Graham being the extra blocker. Yes, screens and a couple of long passes will help.

    2) Prevent the big play (bend don't break).

    3) Win the 3rd down battle.
     
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    Downside is that if you rush two extra guys, you have two guys less in coverage. And if the blitzers come from the edge and you can get the ball to that side, it's good for at least 5-8 yards because no one is there.

    Defeat the blitz by making the blitzing team pay a price. If the blitz is working, the other team will stick with it.
     
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    Play Action? By the time Brady turns around to the blitz he'll have a guy in his face. We saw this on the first play of the season. The key is O-Line protection. Screens and Draws might help if the pressure is from the outside.
     

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