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    Thanks, i needed a reminder of why i hate the Jets.
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    "...because we found examples on tape where it has not been."

    Hard to argue with that. :rolleyes:


    So what's the over/under on fake injuries by the Jets defense tomorrow?
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    Now, in addition to getting the **** kicked out of them tomorrow, they'll also look like a bunch of crybabies. Win-win.
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    When did this guy replace Rex as HC?
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    If I were the Jets I might ask to allow a 12th player on defense.....they'll need it
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    Already putting in the excuses if they lose while trying to lobby the refs to crack down on the Pats.
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    They should fit all the Jets defensive players w. Life alert.
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    What is with the Jets and tape? Spygate it was no tape. Now they have tape of the Pats cheating. I hate them.
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    It's a phantom complaint.

    When I saw the thread title the first thing I thought about was the rule about substitutions.

    - If the offense makes a substitution then the defense is allowed to make substitutions as well.

    - If the offense does not make a substitution then they don't have to wait for the defense to make a substitution.

    Here's the thing: once the Pats go to the huddle they don't make substitutions, or at least seldom do. That's by design, not accident; it's done that way for the express purpose of not letting the opposing defense make substitutions (or else get caught with players out of position, or get called for too many men on the field).

    PFT picked up Pettine's comments and assumed the Pats make substitutions while running the no-huddle ... but if he stopped and thought about it for just a moment before writing then he would realize that making offensive substitutions means you're not going hurry up or no huddle since the offense has to wait for their own players to get onto the field.

    Bottom line is the Jets are complaining about something that the Patriots are not doing - and Florio bought it hook, line and sinker as if it was an indisputable fact. It almost makes me wonder if he even watches the games, or just watches what the various headlines are that get published by the 32 team's beat writers.
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    No problem, Pats can run many sequential plays with a 2TE 2WR 1 RB
    configuration without ever substituting.
    Man, are these guys scared or what.
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    I think they do this times. For example sometimes when a play is over
    the one RB goes out and a different comes in as they are getting to the line.
    Almost sure I saw something like this happen.( it might have be a WR sub)

    Yes PATs do sub. Watch the Denver game with about 5 mins left in the 1stQ.
    Riddley goes out then, play run no RB then Bolden is in on next play.
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    I agree the Pats do substitute on occasion; I just don't recall them substituting, have everyone run up to the line of scrimmage, get set, and snap the ball all before the opposing defense substitutes.

    It also seems odd that none of the teams that the Pats have previously played never (to my knowledge) complained about this, but a team that has not played them (that just by pure coincidence is one that has a long history of complaining about the Pats) is publicly complaining about the no-huddle for the second time this week.
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    All of the other teams victimized by the no-huddle blitz obviously haven't liked it but have, more or less, conceded it's on them to stay up with it. Not the Jets. What a bunch of whining pansies. And Cryin' Ryan tries to promote them as a tough team?
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    Well see they are trying to show they are tough by complaining and hoping roger jet goodell will come to the rescue. What they should be doing is getting mentally prepared for the game. This will not help them at all but just show what they really focused on. Loosing!!
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    That no huddle is going to destroy them tomorrow
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    Another article with some examples

    Done with Patriots games: Rex Ryan and NY Jets can't wait to sink Bill Belichick's subs, no-huddle 'O' - NY Daily News

    Freely interpreting that the pats are beding the rules... :mad:
    and bedard says this via twitter

    Greg A. Bedard ‏@GregABedard
    Carroll said the same thing & was on top of it MT @MMehtaNYDN: Jets think officials are bending rules for Pats Done with Patriots games: Rex Ryan and NY Jets can't wait to sink Bill Belichick's subs, no-huddle 'O' - NY Daily News #nyj
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    I thought Rex said earlier this week he wasn't going to tug on Superman's cape?
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    Tomorrow should remind everyone of a 2007 game. BB is going to run up the score without mercy.
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    I would love to see that happen. Put a 50-burger on the JESTS and watch ol' Rex throwing his headset down in disgust as Sterling More takes one to the house :D

    Prolly gonna be closer than I'd like, but I'm not giving up hope for an epic beatdown of biblical proportions on the JESTS by our New England Patriots.
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    That's just ridiculous. That would be cheating, and the Rats have made it quite clear how they stand on cheating.

    :rolleyes:
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    Absolutely! Just ask that paragon of virtue Mangini! He was all about "Leadership by Example" and all that stuff....... :rolleyes:
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    So this is Jets "Secret Weapon" they were talking about unleashing? What a joke trying to use refs as their 12th man. No No-Mercy Rule in football run it up!
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    As expected breer has to chime on this with his slant

    https://twitter.com/albertbreer

    Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
    RT @MMehtaNYDN Are the officials bending rules for Patriots? The Jets think so... & they're not happy about it Done with Patriots games: Rex Ryan and NY Jets can't wait to sink Bill Belichick's subs, no-huddle 'O' - NY Daily News #nyj

    Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
    What's interesting about that ... Jets players told me during the week that the Dolphins no-huddle is as fast or faster than New England's.

    Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
    Will have more on Jets' readiness for no-huddle on GDM ... But NYJ players told me Miami's fast-break prepared them for NE pace.

    Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
    The no-huddle rule, BTW, is that the ref stands over the ball until defense has chance to sub. Was a BIG problem w/replacement refs

    Austin French ‏@Frenchy180
    @AlbertBreer reading that pisses me off... Patriots finding another way to skirt the rules.

    and he doesnt correct people assuming pats are bending rules. its the job of the officials to see the D has subbed..not the pats to check and ask the defense if they are ready
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