Hmmm.. I show my insanity because I think that Cutler is over-rated by Denver fans?
Broncos fans aren't saying he's an All-Pro or Pro Bowler, we believe he's one of the top 10-12 QBs in the league and I have provided evidence that supports that opinion.
Kitna is mediocre BTW, what the hell has he ever done to deserve that praise?
DaBruinz said:
As for Passer Rating, thats a useless stat in my book. I look at wins, losses, completions, attempts, TDs, and Ints. But I also look at the TEAM.
Passer rating is useless? The passer rating formula thinks pretty high of your QBs listed. Obviously it has some value to it:
NFL leaders by order
1.
Brady
2.
Roethlisberger
3.
Garrard
4.
Manning
5.
Romo
6.
Favre
7.
Garcia
8.
Hasselbeck
9. McNabb
10.
Warner
11.
Brees
12. Cutler
13.
Schaub
14.
Palmer
15. Pennington
16. Rosenfels
17.
Anderson
18. Rivers
19.
Kitna
Bulger is 30th, but was setback by injuries.
Cutler ranks well in all the criteria you listed outside of the 7-9 record. The Broncos defense surrendered over 400 points this season, their highest total since the 1960s. He didn't get much help. The Denver defense is the reason why the Broncos are staying home this January, not the offense. If you are going to penalize Cutler for the record, what's your explanation for Palmer, Kitna and Bulger?
DaBruinz said:
Cutler has a great running game and O-line to help take pressure off him. Kitna doesn't. The Detroit O-line isn't that great. Cutler is 8-12 as a starter with a Denver team that has a good offense with the likes of Walker, Marshall, McGahee, et al.
The offensive line is average in Denver. The pass protection is below average. Denver will draft an offensive tackle in 1st or 2nd round next April.
Denver has McGahee??? Walker hasn't even suited up for half of Cutler's games! Marshall is a second year receiver who has grown up with Cutler. They are learning and growing together. It wasn't like he was established when Cutler started playing.
DaBruinz said:
DVOA is another one of those fictitious stats that show nothing unless you are a fantasy geek.
Football outsiders has nothing to do with fantasy football and they attempt to take the luck of the numbers to give fans a better impression of true performance. Far from perfect, but do you have something better?
BTW, DVOA also thinks really highly of your guys! They must be doing something right.
1.
Brady
2.
Manning
3.
Favre
4.
Brees
5.
Garrard
6.
Romo
7.
Palmer
8.
Hasselbeck
9.
Roethlisberger
10. Cutler
11.
Anderson
12.
Garcia
13. Rivers
14. McNabb
15.
Warner
16.
Kitna
17. Campbell
18. Rosenfels
19.
Schaub
I have no problem with you saying Cutler is not a top 10-12 quarterback, but give me something tangible here other than your word and own rankings. Show me a scout or expert that thinks Cutler is an average quarterback. Where the evidence that proves otherwise?