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  1. pats1

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    Where visions of training camp, roster cuts, and depth charts dance in everyone's mind. Only about 7 weeks to go, and we have a minicamp later as an appetizer before we suffer that brutal lull before it all gets started again. So, in the meantime, here's your current New England Patriots roster count. The lack of NFL Europe exemptions (and bonus exemptions) should make things easier to follow this year (unlike last year, when I couldn't for the life of me figure out why the Pats had 82 counting against the 80-man limit until I just now realized they got an NFLE bonus exemption for both Barthelmes and Baugher being on the practice squad for at least 6 games in 2006 - it was 3 for the 53, but that's all ancient history now that NFLE is done).

    QBs - 4
    QB - Tom Brady
    QB - Kevin O'Connell (Unsigned draft pick)
    QB - Matt Cassel
    QB - Matt Gutierrez

    RBs - 6
    RB - Laurence Maroney
    RB - Kevin Faulk
    RB - Sammy Morris
    RB - Heath Evans
    RB - Kyle Eckel
    RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis

    WRs - 10
    WR - Randy Moss
    WR - Wes Welker
    WR - Jabar Gaffney
    WR - Chad Jackson
    WR - Kelley Washington
    WR - Sam Aiken
    WR - C.J. Jones
    WR/S - Matt Slater (Unsigned draft pick)
    WR - Robert Ortiz
    WR/S - Ray Ventrone

    TEs - 6
    TE - Ben Watson
    TE - Dave Thomas
    TE - Stephen Spach
    TE - Marcus Pollard
    TE - Jonathan Stupar
    TE - Tyson DeVree

    OLs - 13
    OT - Matt Light
    OT - Nick Kaczur
    OT - Ryan O'Callaghan
    OT - Wesley Britt
    OT/G - Oliver Ross

    OG - Logan Mankins
    OG - Stephen Neal
    C - Dan Koppen
    OG/C - Russ Hochstein
    OG/C - Billy Yates
    OG/C - Dan Connolly
    OG/T - Jimmy Martin
    C - Ryan Wendell

    DLs - 12
    DE - Richard Seymour
    DE - Ty Warren
    NT - Vince Wilfork
    DE - Jarvis Green
    NT/DE - Mike Wright
    NT/DE - Le Kevin Smith
    DE - Santonio Thomas
    DE - Kenny Smith
    NT - Steve Fifita
    DE - Chris Norwell
    NT - Henry Smith
    DE - Casey Tyler

    LBs - 12
    OLB - Mike Vrabel
    OLB/ILB - Adalius Thomas
    ILB - Tedy Bruschi
    ILB - Jerod Mayo (Unsigned draft pick)
    ILB - Victor Hobson
    OLB - Shawn Crable (Unsigned draft pick)
    OLB - Pierre Woods
    ILB - Larry Izzo
    ILB - Eric Alexander (Unsigned ERFA)
    ILB - Bo Ruud (Unsigned draft pick)
    OLB - Vince Redd
    ILB/OLB - Gary Guyton

    CBs - 8
    CB - Ellis Hobbs
    CB - Fernando Bryant
    CB - Terrence Wheatley (Unsigned draft pick)
    CB - Jason Webster
    CB - Lewis Sanders
    CB - Jonathan Wilhite (Unsigned draft pick)
    CB - Mike Richardson
    CB - Antwain Spann

    Ss - 6
    S - Rodney Harrison
    S - James Sanders
    S/CB - Brandon Meriweather
    S - Tank Williams
    S/CB - Willie Andrews
    S - Mark Dillard

    STs - 5
    K - Stephen Gostkowski
    P - Chris Hanson
    P - Scott Player
    P - Mike Dragosavich
    LS - Lonie Paxton

    Roster Count
    82 total players
    -1 unsigned but tendered ERFA (Alexander)
    -7 unsigned drafted rookies (Mayo, Wheatley, Crable, O'Connell, Wilhite, Slater, Ruud)

    =74 players counting against the 80-man limit
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    Good stuff, Pats1.



    Anyone think Fifita or Henry Smith can/will make the team as a backup nose tackle?
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    It's possible. They'll carry 6-7 DLs, so it'll be between them and Santonio essentially.
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    On the simple basis of their names, I'm rooting for Steve Fifita (a 300 lb poodle?) and Tyson DeVree (obvious porn star work name).
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    No Jersey Selected

    I prefer Bo Ruud and BenJarvus Green-Ellis.
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    2 moves I think will surprise.

    Eckel will be the FB instead of Evans. Reason being, Eckel is the better ST player and if he can be close to as good a blocker than IMO its an easy choice.

    Cassell will be cut or traded (if not than the hype around Guitirez is off base). I dont see us carrying four like we did with Brady so someones got to go. Obviously it wont be O'Connell so if the Guitirez hype is true (meaning the Coaches agree with the media rumors) than look for the team to either move Cassell or cut him.


    EDIT: maybe not so surprising but still I am predicting.
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    No Jersey Selected

    How could you not? The guy has two first names and two last names.
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    All of which resemble those of current Patriots.
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    Morris!
    Where you been, man?

    He was running great when he got hurt last year. Can't wait to see how he healed up.
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    Truth is: now we no longer have a Randy Gay on the roster the search for humorous names got a lot, lot tougher.
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    Maybe we should shorten it to Ben Ellis. Can't be stealing Jarvis Green's name like that.
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    #61 Jersey

    When I first saw this name, I really thought it was a typo for Jarvis Green. What an odd moniker.
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    I had come across it in my draft lists pre-draft..but had to look again when I saw it.
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    Yes, unfortunately, gone are the days of a Randy Hand or Shockmain Davis.
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    Ruud has an excellent pedigree. That said I think Guyton and Redd are both more intriguing prospects. Alexanders days could be numbered.

    Green-Ellis put up great numbers on what I believe was the worst passing offense in college. Tough roster to crack though with 2 FB's fairly firmly entrenched.

    Kaczur I would assume is on the bubble with O'Callaghan, Britt and now Ross right behind him.

    Punter will also be a position of interest with Drago in the mix.

    CB is a throw-it-at-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks spot. Good mix of draft picks and vets. Should be a good battle. I just hope they can form an identity quickly.

    My surprise 53 guy is Jonathan Stuper.
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    This is my (very) early breakdown of the likely 53. Italicized names indicate people I think will be cut/traded.


    QBs - 4
    QB - Tom Brady
    QB - Kevin O'Connell (Unsigned draft pick)
    QB - Matt Cassel
    QB - Matt Gutierrez

    3

    RBs - 6
    RB - Laurence Maroney
    RB - Kevin Faulk
    RB - Sammy Morris
    RB - Heath Evans
    RB - Kyle Eckel
    RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis


    4

    WRs - 10
    WR - Randy Moss
    WR - Wes Welker
    WR - Jabar Gaffney
    WR - Chad Jackson
    WR - Kelley Washington
    WR - Sam Aiken
    WR - C.J. Jones

    WR/S - Matt Slater (Unsigned draft pick)
    WR - Robert Ortiz
    WR/S - Ray Ventrone


    6

    TEs - 6
    TE - Ben Watson
    TE - Dave Thomas
    TE - Stephen Spach
    TE - Marcus Pollard
    TE - Jonathan Stupar
    TE - Tyson DeVree


    3

    OLs - 13
    OT - Matt Light
    OT - Nick Kaczur
    OT - Ryan O'Callaghan
    OT - Wesley Britt
    OT/G - Oliver Ross

    OG - Logan Mankins
    OG - Stephen Neal
    C - Dan Koppen
    OG/C - Russ Hochstein
    OG/C - Billy Yates
    OG/C - Dan Connolly
    OG/T - Jimmy Martin
    C - Ryan Wendell


    10

    DLs - 12
    DE - Richard Seymour
    DE - Ty Warren
    NT - Vince Wilfork
    DE - Jarvis Green
    NT/DE - Mike Wright
    NT/DE - Le Kevin Smith
    DE - Santonio Thomas
    DE - Kenny Smith
    NT - Steve Fifita
    DE - Chris Norwell
    NT - Henry Smith
    DE - Casey Tyler


    6

    LBs - 12
    OLB - Mike Vrabel
    OLB/ILB - Adalius Thomas
    ILB - Tedy Bruschi
    ILB - Jerod Mayo (Unsigned draft pick)
    ILB - Victor Hobson
    OLB - Shawn Crable (Unsigned draft pick)
    OLB - Pierre Woods
    ILB - Larry Izzo
    ILB - Eric Alexander (Unsigned ERFA)
    ILB - Bo Ruud (Unsigned draft pick)

    OLB - Vince Redd
    ILB/OLB - Gary Guyton

    10

    CBs - 8
    CB - Ellis Hobbs
    CB - Fernando Bryant
    CB - Terrence Wheatley (Unsigned draft pick)
    CB - Jason Webster
    CB - Lewis Sanders
    CB - Jonathan Wilhite (Unsigned draft pick)

    CB - Mike Richardson
    CB - Antwain Spann

    4

    Ss - 6
    S - Rodney Harrison
    S - James Sanders
    S/CB - Brandon Meriweather
    S - Tank Williams
    S/CB - Willie Andrews
    S - Mark Dillard


    4

    STs - 5
    K - Stephen Gostkowski
    P - Chris Hanson
    P - Scott Player

    P - Mike Dragosavich
    LS - Lonie Paxton

    3
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    Great list the one thing I might disagree with is that I think Larry Izzo may be on the bubble. He is still a good STer but Pierre Wood has surpassed him as the best STer on the team and I think Izzo no longer brings as much to the team as a younger player like Ruud might. This assumes Ruud can play STs.
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    Also 4 cornerbacks? I think Webster stays also.
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    I understand childbirth can be a strange and confusing time but how did his parents come up with "BenJarvus Green-Ellis".
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    No way. No way.
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