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A team around #5 or #6?
Houston (who looks to be around #10-#15)?
Dallas (who has two late firsts)?
Atlanta might be willing to deal with us if it means getting Brohm. They have picks and CB Hall, who needs to relocate after losing his cool earlier this year.
If they don't think anybody at #2 is worth the giant contract, there is no minimum -- the #6 pick would simply be better.
To trade out of the #2 spot with . . .
A team around #5 or #6?
Houston (who looks to be around #10-#15)?
Dallas (who has two late firsts)?
5 or 6 this year's first and second.
10-15 this year's first and second and next year's first.
Dallas is looking at 20-25 for Cleveland and 30 or 31 for their pick. Those two picks plus a second, those two picks plus next year's first, those two picks plus Marion Barber.
I cannot see Dallas doing any of those deals nor can I see a team in the 10-15 doing them either. And these are just the minimums.
I disagree with that statement for the reasons mentioned above. Trading down from #2 to the #6 pick for a 7th round pick would NOT be getting fair value out of the pick.
The Patriots are a savvy organization, they will not allow themselves to be ripped off in trades, as much as that may surprise some posters here.
To trade out of the #2 spot with . . .
A team around #5 or #6?
Houston (who looks to be around #10-#15)?
Dallas (who has two late firsts)?
The Pats are NOT going to go in firesale mode if they land the #2 overall pick in the draft.
They will look to maximize the value of that pick to improve their team.
If nobody gives a good enough offer, they can simply select whoever they feel is the #2 overall player in the draft, whether that by McFadden, Long, or whoever else.
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I disagree with that statement for the reasons mentioned above. Trading down from #2 to the #6 pick for a 7th round pick would NOT be getting fair value out of the pick.
The Patriots are a savvy organization, they will not allow themselves to be ripped off in trades, as much as that may surprise some posters here.
People seem to be forgetting NE can trade down multiple times.
Just an example:
Let's say they trade out of 2nd overall, and into the 4th-5th overall range, that team gives up their 2nd rounder, and maybe their fourth round pick as well, which going by the value chart would actually be a very good deal for the team moving up. The Patriots could then trade down into the 10-12 range and pick up another 2nd rounder, while still giving that team (according to the charts) a very good deal.
Going by the value chart NE would be getting the bad end of the overall deal with these two trades, but I think BB & Pioli would factor smaller contract totals into the overall value of the trades.
I'd personally much rather have a top 10-12 pick, two high second rounders, and one late second, than the second overall pick, and a late second. I simply don't like the contract demands, and I actually think your choices are limited with a pick this high. Also, knowing BB & Pioli they'd turn one of those second rounder's into someone's 2009 1st rounder.
Yea, the Patriots are savvy when it comes to trades, and the value of contracts, but it also seems they are savvy enough not to put top five picks at the type of premium some FO's have.
Let's also not forget with the Patriots you can't really use the value chart. Look at their trade with the 49ers. getting the 49ers 2008 first rounder and their 2007 fourth rounder in return for the 28th overall pick (at the time) didn't seem at all like a fair trade to NE. It looks like a really fair trade to NE now since the 49ers have one of the worst records in the league, but at the time of the trade the 49ers were believed to be a team on the rise, that pick was expected by most to be anywhere from 16th-21st overall, and future picks are usually devalued by at least 45-50%.
People seem to be forgetting NE can trade down multiple times.
If it were me, I'd take the #20 and late #20s pick for the #2 in a heartbeat. 2 good players and save about 4M per year. But I don't know, BB wouldn't want to get ripped off according to the value chart, so he may just end up stuck with the #2 pick, even if he'd rather trade it straight up for the #10 pick.