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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Great Blue North has updated their big board of the top 185 prospects in the 2010 draft:
Great Blue North Draft Report
Some interesting rankings of note (I've posted NFLdraftscout's ranking for comparison):
9. Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida - too high for him right now (13)
10. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama (10)
11. Brian Bulaga, OT, Iowa (24)
12. Sergio Kindle, LB, Texas - seem a bit high (21)
15. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, USF (43)
18. Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho (22)
20. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson (6)
28. Terrance Cody, DT, Alabama (49)
30. Maurkice Pouncey, OG/C, Florida (38)
33. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland - too low (27)
34. Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech (18)
36. Jerry Hughes, DE, TCU (52)
38. Everson Griffen, DE, USC (14)
40. Ricky Sapp, LB, Clemson (17)
44. Tim Tebow, QB, Forida (28)
46. Greg Hardy, DE, Mississippi (73)
48. Jahvid Best, RB, USC (30)
50. Eric Norwood, LB, South Carolina (102)
52. Jared Odrick, DT, Penn St. (31)
54. Corey Wootten, DE, Northwestern (33)
59. Ciron Black, OT, LSU - way too high (110)
63. Mike Johnson, OG, Alabama (66)
64. Dexter McCluster, RB, Mississippi (81)
72. Arthur Jones, DT, Syracuse (94)
75. Austen Lane, DE, Murray St. (96)
81. Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois (58)
83. Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee - way undervalued; will be a 1st round pick (25)
110. Micah Johnson, ILB, Kentucky (118)
117. Vlad Ducasse, OG, UMass - way undervalued (82)
146. O'Brien Schofield, LB, Wisconsin (104)
151. Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale - could go much higher (145)
158. Clifton Geathers, DE, South Carolina (216)
171. Sean Canfield, QB, Oregon St. - way undervalued (85)
182. Doug Worthington, DT, Ohio St. (281)
183. Rodger Saffold, OT, Indiana - way undervalued (142)
Guys not in the top 185 who are undervalued:
- Chris Marinelli, OT, Stanford (226)
- Tony Moeaki, TE, Iowa (100)
- Freddie Barnes, WR, Bowling Green (159)
- Brandon Deaderick, DT/DE, Alabama (304)
Why exclude all the WR's? It seems to be a glaring need for high end talent and for depth. Only Edelman is a probability to return next year. I'd bet Welker misses the season and wouldn't be surprised if we dished Moss.
I know you don't want to draft one, but you should acknowledge that we might.
Should include Scouts Inc. too.
NFL - National Football League - ESPN
Though they keep updating the rankings, I notice that Locker is still in there.
If you want to include Scouts Inc., again, feel free to include them and work out the comparisons in their rankins yourself. They only have a top 32, which is why I didn't include them, as the other lists were all at least 185 players deep. Big difference.
Mayo, my tallent sensei, curious to your thoughts on the value of Eric Norwood. I've given him a hard look lately as a Mike, and I think that he is the answer. He can bring the interior pressure, is a beast in taking on and shedding blocks, and brings some great fluidity for a guy of his stocky stature. Do you think he would be a good 2b choice?
Rankings may change considerably in the next 3 months, of course.
Drafttek just updated their big board today, for futher comparison.
Some players of note, ranked by the average of the 3 draft boards (rounded up or down):
10. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama: 10 DS, 10 GBN, 10 Drafttek
11. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson: 6 Draftscout, 20 GBN, 8 Drafttek
11. Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida: 13 Draftscout, 9 GBN, 12 Drafttek
18. Brian Bulaga, OT, Iowa: 24 Draftscout, 11 GBN, 20 Drafttek
21. Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho: 22 Draftscout, 18 GBN, 24 Drafttek
21. Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Clemson: 21 Draftscout, 12 GBN, 30 Drafttek
21. Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson: 17 Draftscout, 40 GBN, 23 Drafttek
22. Everson Griffen, DE, USC: 14 Draftscout, 38 GBN, 15 Drafttek
24. Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech: 18 Draftscout, 34 GBN, 19 Drafttek
26. Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan: 23 Draftscout, 32 GBN, 22 Drafttek
28. Brian Price, DT, UCLA: 34 Draftscout, 21 GBN, 28 Drafttek
31. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, USF: 43 Draftscout, 15 GBN, 36 Drafttek
31. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland: 27 Draftscout, 33 GBN, 32 Drafttek
32. Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma: 37 Draftscout, 27 GBN, 33 Drafttek
33. Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida: 41 Draftscout, 25 GBN, 34 Drafttek
34. Jahvid Best, RB, Cal: 30 Draftscout, 48 GBN, 25 Drafttek
37. Tim Tebow, QB, Florida: 28 Draftscout, 44 GBN, 39 Drafttek
37. Jared Odrick, DT, Penn St: 31 Draftscout, 52 GBN, 29 Drafttek
38. Corey Wootten, DE, Northwestern: 33 Draftscout, 54 GBN, 27 Drafttek
38. Maurkice Pouncey, OG/C, Florida: 38 Draftscout, 30 GBN, 45 Drafttek
41. Terrance Cody, DT, Alabama: 49 Draftscout, 28 GBN, 46 Drafttek
43. Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee: 25 Draftscout, 83 GBN, 21 Drafttek
45. Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU: 52 Draftscout, 36 GBN, 48 Drafttek
58. Greg Hardy, DE, Mississippi: 73 Draftscout, 46 GBN, 54 Drafttek
65. Mike Johnson, OG, Alabama: 66 Draftscout, 63 GBN, 67 Drafttek
65. Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois: 58 Draftscout, 81 GBN, 56 Drafttek
75. Dexter McCluster, RB, Mississippi: 81 Draftscout, 64 GBN, 79 Drafttek
81. Eric Norwood, DE/LB, South Carolina: 102 Draftscout, 50 GBN, 90 Drafttek
83. Arthur Jones, DT, Syracuse: 94 Draftscout, 72 GBN, 83 Drafttek90. Vlad Ducasse, OT/OG, UMass: 82 Draftscout, 117 GBN, 71 Drafttek
90. Austen Lane, DE, Murray St.: 96 Draftscout, 75 GBN, 100 Drafttek
119. O'Brien Schofield, DE/OLB, Wisconsin: 104 Draftscout, 146 GBN, 106 Drafttek
146. Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale: 145 Draftscout, 151 GBN, 141 Drafttek
Averaging the 3 drafts may give some indication of roughly where prospects stand right now, though a few prospects seem over- or under-valued to me. Rankings may change considerably in the next 3 months, of course. It also seems like there is often fairly tight agreement between NFLdraftscout and Drafttek, with GBN differing considerably in their rankings.
I could give you there top 100, but I'd have to kill you after (though I'm not entirely up on internet law).
Again, I can't believe you'd think WR's are not of interest, but so be it. I'm not going to do the work, but do appreciate the time and effort you put in, so keep it up and don't let me hassle you.
Mayo, my tallent sensei, curious to your thoughts on the value of Eric Norwood. I've given him a hard look lately as a Mike, and I think that he is the answer. He can bring the interior pressure, is a beast in taking on and shedding blocks, and brings some great fluidity for a guy of his stocky stature. Do you think he would be a good 2b choice?
I didn't really catch any South Carolina games this season until they met UConn in their bowl game - what I saw from Norwood in the bowl game:From other posts, Box O' Rocks agrees that Norwood's utlimate position with us would be SILB, but thinks he needs a year or 2 to adjust. I'd be curious to hear his analysis.
Norwood started out this season on fire and was talked up as a potential 1st round pick, but he's slipped out of the limelight a bit since then. Right now he seems to be rated a late 2nd or 3rd round pick, and I think he would be tremendous value there, depending on what we do to address the SILB position in FA. He's currently my #3 option after Karlos Dansby and Rolando McClain, and obviously more cost-effective than either.
I didn't really catch any South Carolina games this season until they met UConn in their bowl game - what I saw from Norwood in the bowl game:
- Off the edge as a pass rusher he was his usual self, a constant menace to the QB.
- At the Mike he was tentative, which may have been scheme specific, but was troubling.
- At Sam and Will he was more natural in his reads and flow to the ball.
- At all three LB positions he, and the other LBs, were horrid taking on OL. They clearly had been coached to try and duck under the block, taking it on a shoulder, and getting creamed by the blocker more often than not.
- When he lined up at DE and had to deal with a run block, he reacted by using his hands which made him much more effective.
- His pass coverage is what it is, it's not a strength, but I think he can be coached up better there.
He and the coaches may break his new habits faster than I'm forecasting, I just don't want to go overboard predicting his success as he makes the move to the NFL and a new system if NE does draft him. Beyond that, he's the one pass rusher in this draft whom I most want to see in a NE uniform.