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FARINELLA: Character is taking a back seat


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Fast-forward ahead to five days before the start of the Crimson Tide's 2009 season. Deaderick encountered a would-be robber in the parking lot of his apartment complex and was shot by the thief in the left forearm. The bullet passed through his arm and lodged in his hip, but he still played in all 14 games and started 10.
wow so hes a bad guy because he got shot
 
Well,in a way its true ...although I think the Hernandez thing is quite a bit overated, but the fact is for instance if Maroney was a Jet he would be considered here a bust 2 YEARS AGO and we would all laugh at the former #1 draft pick and if Gholston was a Patriot he would have needed another year or two to mature and is NOT a bust,as many people in here DO NOT CONSIDER a player on the Pats a bust until he leaves...then we hear that he sucks as long as he is wearing another jersey or not in the league anymore.

The world of hypocritical and radical homer fans is everywhere in today's society,all 32 NFL teams have those types of fans and has to be accepted,unbiased fans are becoming rare today - its the way it is.

Although once again back to the topic, the Hernandez issue is little to nothing IMO and the article is wasting its time with that issue unless he becomes Ricky Williams II

It goes beyond rap sheets and character...if its not a player on your team he is worth ridiculing and won't amount to squat...thats the bottom line in today's world of sports.
You hit the nail on the head.
 
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Let's assume that Character is an issue with one player we drafted, this player was also an absolute steal at the position we picked him. I saw many boards with him going upper middle 2nd rounder.


And as hes stated in his interviews he turned to MJ after his father passed away, people deal with stress in all sorts of different ways. If he leaned on mind altering chemicals to help him cope with that loss for a while, and now is clean, that's nothing to get worked up about.

Making bad decisions whilst dealing with grief in the family is entirely different than telling fans to kill themselves, throwing a glass at a woman's face temporarily blinding her, and failing multiple NFL drug tests. This is just like the Ricky Williams thing, which after watching 30 for 30, and seeing what he went through, no wonder the dude cracked and left the NFL - he had so much going through his head. Doesn't make you a bad person because you deal with emotional hardship in certain ways, as long as you can move forward and keep doing what you need to do to follow your goals.

Sorry for the rant, just the media is so full of BS.
 
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Breaking news

a college student player smoked a joint!

Some pats fans are homers!

Omg!!!
 
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Idiotic, pathetic article from a pathetic person who I only have read lately because its almost amazing to see someone desolve into literally petty insults at fans because he desperately knows nobody really gives a **** about his hack, awful reporting at a dying paper.

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What he said. :D
 
I won't say that I haven't seen double standards when it comes to Pats fans, especially on this forum. But using a guy who has smoked weed as an example probably isn't the most effective way of showing it.

We are fans. We are allowed to have double standards, triple standards, whatever we feel like.

This is yet another example of a member of the Boston media drawing a line in the sand, and then pissing on the fans from the other side.
 

My first thought is that Farinella somehow needs well over 1,000 words to make the point that, unlike in the past, franchises today overlook incidents on a player's resume that can raise character issues if the coach thinks the player adds value on the field. He then has a second point that fans apply a double standard when criticizing and/or judging players, depending on their team loyalties. Both of those statements seem like truisms to me, so I'm not sure why they're worth the bandwidth or ink.

I've posted out here in the past that the NFL has crossed the "felony threshold" by allowing those who have been so convicted to play in the League, if they have done their time and are, in the sole judgment of the Commissioner, "rehabilitated." As long as the rehabilitated individual is not a problem in the locker room, all that matters is what he does on Sunday.

Once you cross that line, everything is a matter of degree and comes down to the standards that a particular Ownership might decide to apply. Michael Vick butchered dogs; he can play, at least in Philadelphia. Others have patterns of abuse of women or neglect of their children; they can play, at least for the Steelers and Jets. Plaxico endangered innocent civilians by carrying and discharging an improperly registered firearm with no safety into a crowded venue in the waistband of his sweats; we are only a few months from the drumbeat to allow him to return.

My point? Whether we like the above or not is irrelevant; the NFL has decided.

It's a shame that failing a single test for Marijuana gets lumped in the same discussion with rape and not supporting your children and animal abuse, as, personally, I could care less if the guy gets baked from time to time...but that's my standard.

If we're honest, we all have the lines the crossing of which we approve and disapprove.
 
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If Hernandez was on the Detroit Lions we don't read about him ANYWHERE but maybe in the back pages of the Detroit Sports section.
 
Well,in a way its true ...although I think the Hernandez thing is quite a bit overated, but the fact is for instance if Maroney was a Jet he would be considered here a bust 2 YEARS AGO and we would all laugh at the former #1 draft pick and if Gholston was a Patriot he would have needed another year or two to mature and is NOT a bust,as many people in here DO NOT CONSIDER a player on the Pats a bust until he leaves...then we hear that he sucks as long as he is wearing another jersey or not in the league anymore.

The world of hypocritical and radical homer fans is everywhere in today's society,all 32 NFL teams have those types of fans and has to be accepted,unbiased fans are becoming rare today - its the way it is.

Although once again back to the topic, the Hernandez issue is little to nothing IMO and the article is wasting its time with that issue unless he becomes Ricky Williams II

It goes beyond rap sheets and character...if its not a player on your team he is worth ridiculing and won't amount to squat...thats the bottom line in today's world of sports.

Maroney has been a productive multi-year starter in the NFL. Gholston is a 'sack specialist' and top-6 pick without a position who rarely even makes the active gameday roster. Only the most irrational of axe-grinders would even try to make that analogy.
 
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BTW, wtf character issues are we even talking about? Smoking weed isn't a character issue: it's a maturity issue, and he's 20 year-old kid.
 
Character is in the eyes of the beholder. The press does have a duty to inform, investigate and criticize.

Breer reported Hernandez failed mutiple tests. Hernandez clarified that he volunteered to all teams at the combine he failed a test once. Breer's original story was newsworthy -- these things come out. Where he went overboard was when he came back and contested Hernandez's account again citing unnamed sources. That is a gratuitously calling the kid a liar -- without concrete proof. If Breer has medical records (he doesn't) or he has sources who have first hand knowledge and are willing to be identified, bring them on.

Finally, the question is one of relevance. Hernandez was not suspended at UofF. He did not fail the drug test at the Combine as USC's McCoy did. Everyone slips up. If a zero mistake policy was in vogue, they wouldn't be able to play the full complement of college games every weekend in the fall.
 
I don't think being in New England is going to "straighten him out" because there is nothing to straighten out. I don't give a rip about marijuana use, don't waste my time, if anything alcohol use is worse and that's legal. I don't want to start a debate on whether or not weed should be legal just pointing out its not like the kid is on crystal meth or shooting up heroin daily.
 
wow so hes a bad guy because he got shot

They conveniently forgot to mention that Deaderick was in the starting line-up and playing that very Saturday.
 
We are fans. We are allowed to have double standards, triple standards, whatever we feel like.

This is yet another example of a member of the Boston media drawing a line in the sand, and then pissing on the fans from the other side.

Yes, and it is also fine to point out a double standard when you see it. But I do agree that this is an apples and oranges situation. I don't think even the biggest Patriot haters out there can question us for keeping Kevin Faulk around the last 2 seasons and beyond, just for example.
 
While his use of spygate in the article was stupid, the general points are spot on. This thread demonstrates his point quite well.

Changing the object of your attack from the writer to me doesn't change the underlying truth of the article, it merely reinforces it.
Your tone in this comes across as quite smug Deus Irae. I would have thought by now I had proven that I look at the Patriots and any other NFL with the same mentality and apply conditions to them as I do the Patriots. The article is hypocrisy at it's finest and if you can't or don't want to see that I suggest you come down from the lecturing chair.

I do wonder if you respond to incite controversial discussion at times.
 
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"One way or another, the days of Myra Kraft being able to bully a coach into cutting a character-challenged player a day after his selection - as Bill Parcells was forced to do with Peter - are over."

Is this guy comparing sexual assault to pot smoking and disorderly conduct? I don't have a problem with the media writing about a failed drug test or prior arrest but really???
 
Your tone in this comes across as quite smug Deus Irae. I would have thought by now I had proven that I look at the Patriots and any other NFL with the same mentality and apply conditions to them as I do the Patriots. The article is hypocrisy at it's finest and if you can't or don't want to see that I suggest you come down from the lecturing chair.

I do wonder if you respond to incite controversial discussion at times.

I'm afraid thats all he does, really.

Takes a deliberately contrarian position on a topic - then when called on it, shows us all what a calm and rational guy he is.

Smug is apt.
 
Farfalle is way off on this recipe...oh wait...farinella..my mistake...we're talking football here?...I thought we was talkin' cookies...

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"One way or another, the days of Myra Kraft being able to bully a coach into cutting a character-challenged player a day after his selection - as Bill Parcells was forced to do with Peter - are over."

Is this guy comparing sexual assault to pot smoking and disorderly conduct? I don't have a problem with the media writing about a failed drug test or prior arrest but really???

What does one expect?

When we actually read someone who has been covering a team for 33 years of his life, who after all that work and time is making $19k per year at a newspaper with a subscriber list under 8,000, we shouldn't expect Edward R. Murrow.

Farinella's job is to produce enough words in a certain space on the page so as justify running some more Stop and Shop advertisements. Think: He works for less money to the newspaper than an AP stringer would cost.

There's a 'slight' chance he's a bit angry at the world.

In fact, the proliferation of increasingly desperate newspaper reporters who critique a FANbase for being fans in the actual definition of the word is more reflective of the increasingly panicky situation of newspaper reporters.

Back when newspapers meant something and had a future, the reporters/columnists might have gone negative on athletes or owners, but they never attacked their own readership. This kind of thing we see today is merely a manifestation of personal financial panic and envy.
 
I would like to make up a story about an issue that I think may happen if it was possible that maybe something could have happenned if maybe somehow thinks might be different.
 
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