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  1. Box_O_Rocks

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    Just for fun: two of these linebackers are in the 2007 draft, one was drafted in 2000 out of a fairly modest college program and has had a productive NFL career. Name that tune. Members of NFLDraftScout are excluded from playing. :snob:

    6-5 250, 4.58/40, 2.66/30, 1.56/10, 26/225, 34 1/2"v, 10'2"b, 4.22ss, 6.89 3-c

    6-4 254, 4.72/40, 2.71/20, 1.56/10, 28/225, 35 1/2"v, 9'4"b, 4.17ss, 7.29 3-c

    6-4 258, 4.59/40, 2.70/20, 1.62/10, 27/225, 34"v, 10'2"b, 4.18ss, 6.94 3-c
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    One is Sean Urlacher; the others are Zak DeOssie and the third is probably the Georgia or Clemson DEs and possible OLb conversions.

    As to which are which I suspect the slowest time belongs oto the Clemson/Georgia guess, and the other two are almost interchangeable, so it doesn't really matter...

    Hows the guess?
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    The first one is Zak, the second is Stew, the third one is Brian Urlacher(?). :)
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    I'm thinking:
    1) Zak DeOssie
    2) Stewart Bradley
    3) Brian Urlacher

    ... though my #'s are a bit different, & I don't have the 10/20's.
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    #12 Jersey

    I think the other guesses are correct.

    What a bad first round 2000 was

    1 Cleveland Courtney Brown DE Penn State Bust
    2 Washington LaVar Arrington OLB Penn State Always was over-rated
    3 Washington Chris Samuels T Alabama Solid
    4 Cincinnati Peter Warrick WR Florida State Bust
    5 Baltimore Jamal Lewis RB Tennessee Couple of great years, couple of awful years, but already done.
    6 Philadelphia Corey Simon DT Florida State Talented, no heart
    7 Arizona Thomas Jones RB Virginia Very good but not 7th pick good
    8 Pittsburgh Plaxico Burress WR Michigan State Over-rated, no heart
    9 Chicago Brian Urlacher MLB New Mexico Obviously a star
    10 Baltimore Travis Taylor WR Florida Fair player
    11 N.Y. Giants Ron Dayne RB Wisconsin Bust
    12 N.Y. Jets Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee Decent player
    13 N.Y. Jets John Abraham DE South Carolina Over-rated, always hurt
    14 Green Bay Bubba Franks TE Miami Decent
    15 Denver Deltha O'Neal CB California Decent
    16 San Francisco Julian Peterson OLB Michigan State Great
    17 Oakland Sebastian Janikowski K Florida State LOL!
    18 N.Y. Jets Chad Pennington QB Marshall Good, injury prone
    19 Seattle Shaun Alexander RB Alabama Great
    20 Detroit Stockar McDougle T Oklahoma Who?
    21 Kansas City Sylvester Morris WR Jackson State Who?
    22 Seattle Chris McIntosh OLB Wisconsin Who?
    23 Carolina Rashard Anderson CB Jackson State Who?
    24 San Francisco Ahmed Plummer CB Ohio State Good
    25 Minnesota Chris Hovan DT Boston College Couple of over hyped years
    26 Buffalo Erik Flowers DE Arizona State Who?
    27 N.Y. Jets Anthony Becht TE West Virginia Good
    28 Indianapolis Rob Morris MLB Brigham Young This was his best year
    29 Jacksonville R. Jay Soward WR Southern California Who
    30 Tennessee Keith Bulluck OLB Syracuse Very good
    31 St. Louis Trung Canidate RB Arizona I thought he would be better than he has been.
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    Check out the top 10 from 2005:
    1. San Francisco 49ers - Alex Smith, QB Utah
    2. Miami Dolphins - Ronnie Brown, RB Auburn
    3. Cleveland Browns - Braylon Edwards, WR Michigan
    4. Chicago Bears - Cedric Benson, RB Texas
    5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Carnell Williams, RB Auburn
    6. Tennessee Titans - Adam Jones, CB West Virginia
    7. Minnesota Vikings (from Oakland) - Troy Williamson, WR South Carolina
    8. Arizona Cardinals - Antrel Rolle, CB Miami (Fla)
    9. Washington Redskins - Carlos Rogers, CB Auburn
    10. Detroit Lions - Mike Williams, WR USC


    This is what I think about when people are soooo eager to trade somebody like Asante Samuel for draft picks.

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    But we have somebody who picks good groceries. :D

    I know what you're saying.

    The 2005 draft class still has time to turn it around, well maybe not Mike Williams and Pacman and all his street cred is a mess.
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    I googled a link to find out which pick we traded for BB that year & wound up in the 6th rd. Bulger, Rackers, Edinger, Adalius Thomas, Mike Anderson, Brady... might have been as strong as the 1st in terms of long term careers.
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    I browsed some of the other rounds and they were as good as the first. Just goes to show trading down into the second to pick up additional picks really is the best value at times.
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    Yup.

    With Texas DE/OLB Brian Robison in the draft, there are three really athletic 250+ lb LB candidates to be considered at the end of day one/start of day two.

    What this draft does offer is two true LBs and a DE reported to have played some OLB at Texas.

    Zak DeOssie: 6-5 250, 4.58/40, 2.66/30, 1.56/10, 26/225, 34 1/2"v, 10'2"b, 4.22ss, 6.89 3-c;
    http://condraft.com/database/ivy-league/brown/zak-deossie/index.html *they have an annoying registration pop-up, just scroll down the page and click on "not right now" to clear the thing.
    http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2006&org=80&player=93

    Stewart Bradley: 6-4 254, 4.72/40, 2.71/20, 1.56/10, 28/225, 35 1/2"v, 9'4"b, 4.17ss, 7.29 3-c;
    http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/bradley_stewart
    http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2006&org=463&player=34

    Brian Robison: 6-3 259, 4.67/40, 2.65/20, 1.49/10, 27/225, 40 1/2"v, 10'1"b, 4.26ss, 6.89 3-c;
    Excerpt from NFLDraftScout.com
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    I read somewhere recently (can't find it for the life of me), that the SonofBum interviewed Robison with an interest to moving him inside. To me, he seems more like a BB/Parcels ILB than a Phillips ILB. Thoughts on moving him inside?
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    I'm assuming you mean 3-4 ILB.

    From what I can see from San Diego, SoB wanted good coverage and blitzing LBs, Robison reads like a good blitzing LB for SoB's love of stunts to create the pressure. Robison is in the 4th round of most mocks because they are trying use him as a classic edge rushing 4-3 DE, instead of thinking about what he could do in another system.

    I'd say SoB is thinking about "his" 3-4 system and projecting well. Robison would need at least a year, probably two with the Pats to build up his upper body and improve his hands, but I could see him inside for the Pats too. He'd also need that time to develop his coverage reads and skills. He'd be excellent on STs from the start.

    There's thoughts from a Box_O_Rocks for today. :)
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    You mean that's all we get today???? Well this has all been one big tease!!!
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    Well, if you want a tease to come across, you've got to put out a little effort your ownself. :cool:
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    In defense of the 2005 draft, Williamson and Pac-Man were both workout warriors and people should have known to stay away. As for the rest, we shall see.
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    BTW, here's some more linebacker fun.

    6'5", 270, 4.7 40, 20 225, 4.13 shuttle, 6.85 3cone

    6'3", 261, 4.7 40, 30 225, 4.43 shuttle, 7.14 3cone

    6'3", 266, 4.77 40, 25 225, 4.75 shutte, 7.09 3cone
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    Current or past draft classes?
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    I don't have time to look any of this up, but my out the butt guess would be Vrabel & Colvin & TBC.
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    These are all current.
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    #1 my best guess is Chase Pittman who is waiting for his Pro-Day, so I have no times on him.

    #2 is Anthony Spencer, though I show a 7.14 3-c for him and don't consider him a good OLB prospect.

    #3 looks like Lamar Woodley, who is also waiting for his Pro-Day.
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