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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.1. We can no longer label Brady as 'underpaid' or 'taking a hometown discount'.
1. We can no longer label Brady as 'underpaid' or 'taking a hometown discount'.
2. How does AV's deal not make the top 10 kicker salaries? I assume it's either end-loaded or the signing bonus changes the math?
Your assumption about Brady (which is incorrect) answers your question about Adam. These numbers are basically cap numbers - salary plus any non converted bonus plus the pro rated share of amortized bonus. Brady's deal is front loaded (and also includes the remainder of his earlier amortized bonus from his 2002 extension). It averages $10M per and actually finishes in sub double digit range cap wise. Mannings had no leftover amortization and is backloaded with salary and a signing bonus that was 25% higher and dotted with roster bonuses that are twice the size of any in Brady's out years. The annual average value of Mannings is $14M per but it finishes out unless extended in the $20M per cap range. And if you just look at them as 3 year net deals for comparison purposes, I believe Brady's averages about $13M vs. Manning's at just over $15M.
Adam's deal was structured with backloaded salary and a large signing bonus/minimal first year salary so his cap hit in the first season was just $1.5M or so. Those cap hits will be almost $3M at the back end as a result. But the deal overall averages around $2.5M.
What Mo did not feel it necessary to say is: "For a freakin KICKER?!?!?!?!"
There, I said it.
PFnV
To rephrase:
What Mo had no intention of saying was that thing about "for a freakin KICKER!" That part was all me.
At any rate - is the kid (Gost) on a 4 year rookie deal? 3? Well, yikes, I hate to say it, but by the time his bill comes due, we have a number of way, way bigger issues. By then, we might be looking around for the latest spawn of the Grammatica subspecies, actually... because that's right around the window where we have Brady to lock down again, and we have to think about getting Sey done again. For all we know we're talking about the Age of Cassel by then, though from what I know thus far (and more importantly what we know of Brady), I really really hope not.
Brady is signed through 2010, although he will likely be extended by 2008 because even Tom can't be expected to work for backend peanuts. As for Cassel, he's is gone after 2008 if not sooner in trade unless he inexplicably decides he likes life as a backup and one shot at a set for life starters deal isn't appealing...or Tommy Boy suddenly developes a preference for cold hard cash over statuary and jewelry and legacy - either of which I doubt will happen.
As for the other, I believe the goal was (and perhaps too often is) keep them for what we have to but don't let them know it unless we have a gun to our heads. It's a strategy that doesn't always play well for the sensitive types, but then BB prefers to coach players he doesn't have to spend a lot of time coach hugging (except after big wins).
http://www.nflpa.org/pdfs/NewsAndEvents/HotTopics/FranchiseAndTransition_2007.pdf[/QUOTE
Miguel: I see how the Transition number is calculated (10% of the total) but the Franchise number doesn't bear any consistent relationship to the total (goes from 10.8% to over 12). How is it calculated? Thanks!!!
Don't put words in my mouth bucko...:nono:
I would have paid Adam, and so would Belioli had they been given the one last chance. I wouldn't have let it come to that. The kid kicker is working out pretty well, thankfully, but I would have been a bit more selective about picking my battles because there are plenty more of them out there. Particularly full well understanding that if the kid is nearly the kicker he's being asked to replace he'll be looking for his PDQ.
Warren and Wilfork are going to make serious coin...
Robertson, Dewayne DT $9,417,760
Henderson, John DT $6,836,500
Williams, Jamal DT $6,650,000
Sapp, Warren DT $5,997,000
Pickett, Ryan DT $4,975,000
Hampton, Casey DT $4,793,750
Coleman, Roderick DT $4,447,500
Stroud, Marcus DT $4,385,000
Dockett, Darnell DT $4,115,000
Payne, Seth DT $3,925,000
DT Total $55,542,510 $6,775,000 $5,554,000
http://www.nflpa.org/pdfs/NewsAndEvents/HotTopics/FranchiseAndTransition_2007.pdf[/QUOTE
Miguel: I see how the Transition number is calculated (10% of the total) but the Franchise number doesn't bear any consistent relationship to the total (goes from 10.8% to over 12). How is it calculated? Thanks!!!
The transition number is the average of the ten numbers.
Warren and Wilfork are going to make serious coin...
Robertson, Dewayne DT $9,417,760
Henderson, John DT $6,836,500
Williams, Jamal DT $6,650,000
Sapp, Warren DT $5,997,000
Pickett, Ryan DT $4,975,000
Hampton, Casey DT $4,793,750
Coleman, Roderick DT $4,447,500
Stroud, Marcus DT $4,385,000
Dockett, Darnell DT $4,115,000
Payne, Seth DT $3,925,000
DT Total $55,542,510 $6,775,000 $5,554,000
The transition number is the average of the ten numbers.
Questions. Do we have to use the fanchise tag before we use the transistion tag?
If not why can't we transition Graham if we reach a deal with Samuels?
No. A team can use either but not both in a capped year.Questions. Do we have to use the fanchise tag before we use the transistion tag?
No reason but Steve Hutchinson situation practically render the transition tag useless.If not why can't we transition Graham if we reach a deal with Samuels?