CB- D.J. Moore Vanderbilt ?

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  1. carolinatony

    carolinatony In the Starting Line-Up

    Its way to early I know but i see where a bunch of mocks have us taking him in the first.
    Its a need but is he a solid pick in the first or are their better guys at this pick?
    thanks
     
  2. BradyManny

    BradyManny Pro Bowl Player

    It's never too early. I think it makes sense. I've only seen him play in the bowl game, but I was impressed and he played through an injury.

    He fits the mold of a Pats CB, smaller, quicker.
     
  3. mayoclinic

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    Solid pick. Love it. He's probably the best pure Pats-style CB in the draft. 5'10", 182#, 4.4 speed or better, fluid hips. Very versatile, with experience as a return man and has even played WR this season with fair success. High character kid, with a high motor.

    Unfortunately I think there is a good chance Moore goes top 20 by the time the draft comes around. I think he is a much better option for the Pats than Vontae Davis, and he may pass Davis up as the #2 CB by April.

    I am currently torn between DJ Moore, William Moore, and Sean Smith if we go DB in the first. DJ Moore is the best pure CB; Moore is the best pure S; Smith is a bit of a tweener and potentially offers the ability to play both positions, with tremendous physical attributes, but also the greatest risk.
     
  4. BradyManny

    BradyManny Pro Bowl Player

    What about Alphonso Smith? He's a guy Ochmed has been high on that I thought looked good in his bowl game, and I think fits that same Patriots CB-style.
     
  5. supafly

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    Love this pick also, did a fair amt. of college ball betting this yr, so I was able to see him multiple times. I agree, however, that he probably won't be around by the time we pick.
     
  6. mayoclinic

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    He's a great CB but a little short - sort of a more talented version of Ellis Hobbs. If he were 2 inches taller he's be right up there with the others, but I would put him a bit lower than the others as it is. I probably like Alphonso Smith and Darius Butler the best of the next tier CBs, and would be happy with him in the second round if things fell that way, but I see him as a reach at #23 because of his height. JMHO. Ochmed is probably much more knowledgable about him.
     
  7. JoeShmoe

    JoeShmoe 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Yeah. id take Moore (S) over a CB too. I think with Hobbs, Wheatley and Wilhite we have an OK bunch of corners, two of whom coming off a fairly impressive rookie season and there's always FA. I just dont see Bill going CB round 1 at all
     
  8. JSn

    JSn Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Agreed, safety or LB with the first pick. Corners feel like WR's - too scary/unpredictable to pick in the first.
     
  9. VJCPatriot

    VJCPatriot Pro Bowl Player

    Strong safety play is a characterstic of several of the playoff teams we've seen this year, the Ravens with Reed, the Steelers with Polamalu, the Eagles with Dawkins, the Cardinals with Adrian Wilson, etc. I think the Pats have a hole at SS, and it can be filled on the first day of the 2009 draft if they want to fill the need that way.
     
  10. PatsFan2

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    Rookie CB's transition better than WR's early on it's proven fact.
     
  11. MetalBleachers

    MetalBleachers Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    On the positive side, this is a deep draft for CBs, and one solid one should be available midway through the second. On the other hand, I'm not sure I see BB using a first-rounder on a pass-rushing OLB (Sintim, Kruger). There's mid-round help in that area, too.

    He might shock us all and go OL on us. :eek:
     
  12. stinkypete

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    Bingo! It's still early to tell, but my impression of this draft class is that but the time we pick, the remaining LB prospects will be DE/OLB conversion projects. Meanwhile, there will be a group of 5-6 cornerbacks with nearly equal ability, meaning none of them are value picks and one is surely to be around when we use San Diego's pick in round 2.

    This draft is incredibly deep at OL. I anticipate a rush on offensive tackles much like last year's, but unlike last year the talent doesn't dry out after the top 5 guys.
     
  13. mayoclinic

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  14. JSn

    JSn Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Danger! Danger!

    Did you hear his one teammate? "He's just like a kid out there..."

    DANGER!!! :D
     
  15. DJ is a good player, but he is not an elite player. He may be slightly better than the CB options NE would have at the beginning of round 2. (Alphonso Smith, Macho Harris, Darius Butler) value wise, he's not a good pick in round 1. I'd go in a different direction.
     
  16. Just like a kid out there? people usually say that to express how much fun they have while playing the game. I don't think he meant that in a negative way.
     
  17. D-Money

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    I am hoping we trade Cassel.I like him but i am assuming that TB will be back and they are really high on that QB we took last year in the draft.
     
  18. Ochmed Jones

    Ochmed Jones Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    There is only one CB in this draft that I think BB would take in the first round and that is A. Smith of Wake Forest.

    Smith is a better option at CB than Morre for the following reasons.

    1.) Superior Ball Skills
    2.) Super quick twitch, change of direction, (an absolute must).
    3.) Tackling skills, not afraid to come up and lay the wood.
    4.) Starting in the base defense experience.
    5.) ST experience.

    However Moore is a much bettter return man.

    Smith is the only CB I think fits the BB mold and is a first round talent. However I do not advocate BB taking Smith or any other CB in the first round, I think BB can find CB's that fit his system almost as well in the third and fourth round (Burnett of UCF for example).
     
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