patriot1136
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.See below.How is he redundant?
No, I didn't misspeak. You appropriately responded to @Bobsyouruncle with what has been spoken about (at length) when it become apparent Browner was going to be released. There's not much more I can add to what you responded with.I think ausbacker simply mispoke, he's not redundant but in theory Browner's skill set requires a player like Revis to succeed, Browner doens't match up all that well 1 on 1, but he is a fantastic bully at the LOS and if you shade some help in his direction he's prefect for a team with a true lock-down #1 corner.
Without that shut down corner it's hard to shade the help to Browners side, making him more of a liability than an asset, so he's expendable.
His skillset is also seemingly limited so if we're switching defensive schemes he loses value with us and a less physical corner with equal or greater coverage skills can easily replace his role.
I have no idea why we let browner go. I'm hesitant to doubt bill because of his track record but we had him under contract. He was a great player. Who are we gone get that's better than him? What's done is done but I wish I could've been a fly on the wall when that decision was made.
I think ausbacker simply mispoke, he's not redundant but in theory Browner's skill set requires a player like Revis to succeed, Browner doens't match up all that well 1 on 1, but he is a fantastic bully at the LOS and if you shade some help in his direction he's prefect for a team with a true lock-down #1 corner.
Without that shut down corner it's hard to shade the help to Browners side, making him more of a liability than an asset, so he's expendable.
His skillset is also seemingly limited so if we're switching defensive schemes he loses value with us and a less physical corner with equal or greater coverage skills can easily replace his role.
If that was truly the case, Browner would have looked like a pile of **** in 2011 which was the year before Sherman really came into his own. Not sure how many Seahawks games you watched back then, but Browner was actually the best CB on the team *THAT* year.
Browner was also like 27 instead of 31 then, you're right, I didn't watch a ton of his play then, but I do know that he is a complimentary piece only, a very good one with the right pieces next to him, but on his own I'd imagine he leaves something to be desired.
Most CB2's are complimentary pieces. So, instead of just needing a CB1, the Patriots now need a CB1 and possibly a CB2 (unless Dennard rebounds and, even then, he needs his share of safety help).
I'm not disagreeing but if we don't have a true #1 corner I'm not sure how willing I am to trot out Browner and his 16 penalties in 10 games to be the #1.
You act as if this team has never fielded two #2's before. It's happened. I personally don't want to see it, but it's happened.
But it is what it is. There is still the draft to go on top of some intriguing FA (Culliver) and trade (Lewis) options open to improve the position. On top of that, Dennard will hopefully come back from a down/injury-plagued year and take over the CB2 role again. The Patriots can still field a good defense, but the back end needs some work first.
I'm not one who's worried about the defense too much and I know that before we traded for Talib we were doing exactly that, fielding multiple #2 type guys (depending on how you viewed DMC in 2012 at CB).
Bodden, Butler, Wheatley, Arrington, Dowling etc. (Actually most of those aren't even #2's)
Culliver has signed, Lewis is still available in theory. I just don't see us adding a better player to the secondary through FA and not all rookies play like DMC in 2010 at CB or Ryan in 2013.
Like I said though, I'm not worried as much about the defense as others. We'll likely play zone primarily and blitz, I haven't heard us linked to a single CB (not counting Chekwa as a contributor) yet we've heard many Front 7 names. The plan *seems* clear (though it rarely ever is that simple).
Thanks for the reminder on Culliver. I had forgotten. Now that Chandler is under contract, maybe we can offer up Wright and a pick for Lewis. Then we can go into the draft maybe looking for a S high and a CB somewhere in the middle rounds.
I'd be fine with that.
I do want to correct something I said about not being as worried with the defense:
My only true fear is that we lineup Arrington outside of the slot like we seem to do so often when those players miss time.
I hope that when it happened during games it was more of a "quick adjustment because he;s ready to go" and not that the team views him as the next best option outside.
Well, at least your not catastrophizing about it.
It's just PFF, but yikes.