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  1. pats1

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    Stallworth may be a good teammate, but he drank and drove and killed someone. It showed a lack of caring for others. Personally, i have no use for people like that because he got what amounted to a slap on the wrist while the family has to suffer for the rest of their lives without their loved one.
     
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    He went out and had a couple of drinks at dinner then drove after that. He wasn't tanked. What happened was a freak accident that was unfortunate for the guy he hit as well as Stallworth. So let me guess, you've never had a couple of glasses of wine while at dinner with family or friends and then drove home?

    EDIT: And it's going to be funny to see some of the responses for this. I guess Brady is going to be called a "P.O.S." and a "piece of garbage" for supporting such a heartless murdering scumbag, right? :rolleyes:
     
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    You need to lay off this guy. Just like KontradictioN said, Stallworth wasn't tanked.

    Maybe you should learn a bit more about how the OUI laws have changed since 2003, for good and bad, before you cast judgements. Hit a person while you're driving with a blood alcohol level of .07, and its a just a terrible tragedy. Hit a person while you're driving with a blood alcohol level of .08, and you're a dirty, irresponsible, murdering scumbag.

    Sure, Stallworth's blood alcohol was higher than .08 - but he wasn't roaring drunk and the alcohol might not have even been a factor in the accident. But he'll pay for it nonetheless. Fair application of the law, right?
     
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    Well I officially call Stallworth a liar. He said he only had four shots, but a couple hours later blew a .126. Un-possible.

    Edit: If he was really sorry about it, he wouldn't continue to lie about the situation. In my eyes, this makes him a bigger d-bag.
     
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    His alcohol level was over the legal limit. Freak accident or not, that's showing poor judgment on his part to drive under the circumstance and a person is dead because of it.
     
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    No. The guy he hit actually jumped over a jersey barrier to get on to that causeway. He had no business being there, and was putting is life in danger. Stallworth flashed his highbeams honked his horn but couldn't take evasive action because it was a one-lane road with a barrier. There is blame to be found on both sides.
     
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    Wrong. The person in question would have been dead regardless of whether or not Stallworth was drinking. He stepped in the road in front of an oncoming car. While it was a poor decision to drive under the influence, there is little doubt that the accident would have happened regardless of whether or not he had a couple before the accident occured. If you haven't yet, I strongly encourage you to listen to Stallworth's 911 call.
     
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    He displayed poor judgement that night and made a terrible mistake. I don't think though that it means he has an outright lack of caring for others. If he goes out and gets another DUI, whether somebody is harmed or not, then I'd definitely begin to suspect the same. But IMO the guy deserves a 2nd chance.
     
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    OK, havnt we already gone over this? the accident is not quite clear cut

    yea stallworth had alcohol in his blood over the legal limit, but the right quesiton is how much did that affect the accident

    fact is, there is a possibility that even without ANY alcohol the accedent may have still occured, which means the pedestrian was as fault as well

    the fact that stallworth had been drinking only complicates the matter
     
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    You can't know this. No one can. Stallworth might have blown .262 and the guy might not have died. Butterfly's wings and all. Doesn't discount the fact that driving under the influence is as dangerous as carrying a loaded weapon in the waistband of your sweatpants (maybe more dangerous). That alone means it should never be considered a "tragic accident" and more of a criminal act.

    But this has all been covered ad nauseam here and other places. There are some who believe as I do and some who believe that drinking and driving is no big deal, minds will never be changed unless something major happens to that person. I just hope I never "run into" any of the other camp when I am driving.
     
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    If the man who was killed was a relative to ANY of you and you loved him then you know damn well you would have a different opinion of Donte's drinking while slightly impaired than you do now because in reality none of you care about that dead guy who you didn't know.

    Lets not BS here and say "I still would have thought Donte didn't do much wrong" if you knew the dead man.

    I still wonder if MY own accident was not the reason of an impaired driver myself,will never know
     
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    We don't know how Stallworth would have reacted had he been completely sober.

    I'm sure you've experienced situations where you've had to take evasive maneuvers to avoid getting into an accident because another driver/or pedestrian wasn't paying attention. Had he not been drinking, he may have been aware of what was around him.

    Put it this way, if Stallworth was some random guy driving around over the alcohol legal limit and he kills a little kid who runs out into the street, I think your stance would be different.
     
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    Wait..........Stallworth had time to flash his higbeams AND honk his horn, but couldn't stop or slow down his car?
     
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    Anyone who has ever driven on 395 where this accident happenened sympathizes with Stallworth. The Peter King story is the first place I've seen it described accurately - it is a six lane highway. Have you ever seen someone run across 128? I don't remember ever seeing it in the 20 years I lived up there and I don't care to speculate on how I might react if it happened, especially if it happened in the dark. Fact is, we don't know if the accident could've been avoided if he hadn't been drinking, but every aspect of his behavior post-accident makes me want to give him the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    I thought that this was about Brady's support, in my view was appropriate... did not exhonerate him, just offered some encouragement.
     
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    did you ever lose a loved one to a drunk-driving incident?
     
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    don't pre-judge

    stallworth did what so many, many people in our society do on a regular basis (including myself)

    he is not a murdering scumbag, but he had an extremely bad lapse in judgement that cost someone else their life. did alcohol play a part? it doesn't really matter in my opinion except that it is how the law is written.

    if that had happened to me, or to the average private citizen on a 1st DUI, I duobt any of us would have done time.

    I still classify the event as an 'accident' and something that has plenty of room to be litigated for in civil court.

    I don't feel bad for him in any way......he deserves to live with the guilt he has......that said, I don't think of him any differently as a person......for me as well as most of us, that woudl be hypocritical
     
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    How considerate of Brady. His statement alone says alot about what type of person he is. A very humble guy...
     
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