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  1. parthasas

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    Thanks for posting this. I was wondering why he was so angry.
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    I was wondering the same thing, I figured that was what it was.
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    That's something A-Rod would do. Jackasses.
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    I can understand Brady getting upset, but at the same time I can also understand why the Colts did it. I'm not saying that makes it right or it was okay; as Brady pointed out, the only chance the Colts had at that point was for the Patriots to get an offsides penalty - or perhaps a botched snap resulting in a fumble.

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    This has happened before, I think maybe even against the Colts. Brady is a stickler for this. Hey its the rules, the refs should pay attention.

    Gotta love how he is intense even in the last seconds lol.
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    Yes! As soon as I saw him giving it to the official I knew the Colts were simulating the snap count.
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    What's the issue? the colts should do any damn thing they can get away with that might make the Pats screw up and Brady should make damn sure the refs are in the game til the end.

    I love it, great game!
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    If my 10 year old (who didn't know it was against the rules) gets a flag for it in a youth game an NFL D-Lineman should be flagged.
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    Something tells me Daniel Muir's voice might sound a little different then Brady's

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    Maybe we can ask the NFL Rules Committee for a rule change.. oh never mind.
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    2007 game in indy. brady was mad then too with the refs during the same exact thing -kneel downs to end the game.
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    i think what is more impressive is the situational awareness of our QB/team to explain the rule.
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    Yeah too bad the guys whose job it is to watch for this are not as aware. Although I must say they did a decent job last night.

    BTW did anyone else think they should have called offensive pass interference on Garcon when he semi wrapped up McCourty when he was going after that tipped ball?
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    Brady wasn't mad at the Colts, he was angry at the refs for not calling it, I think. At least he was yelling at the refs, not the Colts.
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    Once the ball is tipped by anyone the pass interference rules do not apply.
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    Ahh ok, you're right. Thanks!
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    Yeah, he might bark at whoever was doing it in the moment, but it's the refs you gotta attack.

    I don't begrudge the Colts doing that or anything else to try & win, it's what I'd want my team to do.

    Reminds me of the A-Rod thing where he slapped at Bronson Arroyo, that didn't bother me either--what was lame was his pathetic "what? what I do?" bit after.
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    Yep, and good for Tom. The Colts are sneaky bastards, but I also understand why they did it.

    If WE had done it and it worked and we got away with it, I'd have thought it was awesome.
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    He was mad at both. The Colt defender also.

    #51 or #53.

    See the video at the 1:56 mark:

    YouTube - Patriots vs Colts (Nov. 21 2010)
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    Here's a little insight as to why Brady was exactly right to be mad.

    The clock would have been stopped if the Patriots had moved and a penalty had been called on them and not on the Colts (i.e. had the Colts succeeded in what they were TRYING to do). That would have let them preserve their 2 timeouts and they could have forced extra snaps (leading to a small but real chance of a fumble) and maybe even a punt, I'd have to look at the tape to know for sure the time situation.

    But even if there was not time and timeouts available to force a punt, just forcing extra snaps can be significant. Teams have lost due to a fumbled exchange while trying to run out the clock. One was the most famous play in the HISTORY of Tennessee football and it allowed them the chance to win a national championship.

    That's also why as the apparently losing team, you still use ALL of your timeouts and you make them kneel down, just in case they fumble the exchange.

    here's the Tennesee play I mentioned:

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    Me too. I thought it was because they called a time out the first time Brady took a knee.
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    Can someone explain what exactly the Colts did wrong, is there a rule against D-linemen yelling before the snap?
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    Absolutely. It's a rule that has been called before and it has almost cost teams GAMES before. An example of it NOT being called when it should have been was the Jets (under Mangini) doing it vs. the Ravens and drawing three illegal procedure penalties to help close a 20-3 deficit to 20-13: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count vs. Ravens - USATODAY.com

    also: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/sports/football/19jets.html

    here is one writers' take:

    Tom Brady furious at the Colts defensive line; but happy about everything else | From the Bleachers | IrishCentral

    I would add that the author isn't quite right- the Arkansas-Tennesee fumbled snap scenario could result if it's not called, because stopping the clock means another snap. A rare thing I know, but it's why you don't want to take a snap you don't have to.
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    They should change the penalty. 15 yards and 30 seconds off the clock if in the last two minutes of a half.
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    That's a smart idea. Very sensible.

    I have to admit, I was puzzled why Brady was so livid, but I absolutely love it.

    The team had narrowly escaped a dramatic loss. After driving down the field three times in the fourth quarter, Manning was stopped with a critical turnover. With great relief, Brady and the offense ran onto the field to run the clock out for the victory. Brady kneeled down untouched, time was ticking off, and Brady was ticked off. He was screaming at the ref's; if this was basketball he would have been Double-T'd and ejected. And that was literally as the team was winning the game.

    The snap simulation is a high comedy. It's sort of like the Delta Tau Chi "coughblowjobcough" scene. Did they yell Omaha? It would be better if they had a recording of the snap count, replayed through the Mike's helmet.
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