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  1. Nordberg

    Nordberg Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    (Note: Watch NFL Network's replay of the game for the split-screen explanation by Mike Pereira, NFL vice president of officiating, who claims Hobbs impeded Wayne's path to the ball and initiated contact before turning around to find the football. Only one problem ... as Pereira is telling us this, the split-screen replay shows Hobbs turning around before there was any contact. It's an incredible 10 seconds of TV. I wish we could hire Pereira to describe other things that allegedly didn't happen while we show videotape to prove the opposite was true. "As this tape by Rick Salomon proves, Paris Hilton has never had sex with someone on camera ...")

    LOL

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/071109&sportCat=nfl
     
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    NEPat Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Simmons:

    Well people? What do you choose? The second choice obviously carries a whole lot of risk...but it's so tempting....if the team hadn't won championships before, then I think you have to go with door number 1.

    But this season, with all the sh*t that's gone on? Door Number 2.
     
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    Great read..Thanks
     
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    fumbrunner In the Starting Line-Up

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    Freakin awesome story. Its absolutely true. I have completely taken the f___ the world attitude when it comes to the Pats.
     
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    cblesz Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Just read the article and was coming to post a link. Finally...although he is not "mainstream media", someone who writes for a reputable organization sounds off!!

    The whole time I was reading, I was nodding my head in agreement. Heck, I forgot about a couple of the bad/missed calls (especially the block in the back from Moorehead).

    Wholeheratedly agree - eff everyone, baby!!!
     
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    Door one. It's all about The Lombardy, nothing else even comes close.
    This punk doesn't feel lucky.
    My personal take is we get it all.
     
  7. Nordberg

    Nordberg Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    I'm a conservative.....so I would most likely pick door #1.

    But #2 is tempting
     
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    JoePats In the Starting Line-Up

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    By the way the fact that the NFL Network didn't put the Faulk play and the Moss PI on their game replay is a complete disgrace.
     
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    psychoPat Role Player PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Just in case even a single reader here
    wonders what my sig is about ...
    try the link.
     
  10. TomBrady'sGoat

    TomBrady'sGoat 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    In this instance I am happy to have him speaking for NE fans. That column perfectly captured the game and how it made me feel, with my anger giving way to an angry defiance that will last the rest of the year. Screw the NFL and the fans/mediots who want to talk about asterisks and class. I want 19-0.
     
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    Or the play where Moss' hand is being held down while trying to go up for a TD catch.

    Door #2, without question.
     
  12. ALP

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    owww, this guy says it best doesnt he?
     
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    2 of 3?

    I think we have better chances than that right now.

    2 of 3 scares me. That's like saying one of Dallas, San diego and Indy will probably beat us.

    No way.

    If he said 9 out 10, then I'd think about it. But 2 of 3? I'll take the sure 100% Lombardi.
     
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    dtbrks 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    Good read.
    I would take door #1. A superbowl win is all that really matters (to me)
     
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    stinkypete In the Starting Line-Up

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    #24 Jersey

    I want it all. I want to finish 16-0. I want to knock off Pittsburgh, Indy and Dallas in 1985 Chicago Bears fashion. I want a top 5 pick from the Niners and I want to use it Glenn Dorsey or Darren McFadden or some luxury player who makes the roster an embarrasment of riches. I want the Patriots to break their own record winning streak. I want this team to put its foot down and annoint itself "best team ever."

    So I'm going with door #2.
     
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    Itemized Indictment

    Here is the most comprehensive catalog of infamy to date.
    Simmons totes up 10 separate offenses.
    He doesn't even bother with the automatic first downs granted the Colts if the head linesman or referee thought they got close.


    In fact, here's how bizarre it was -- while watching "Victory," I thought to myself, "I hope this isn't how the Pats game is called tomorrow."

    As it turned out, I wasn't far off. Nobody outside of Boston made a big deal about the officiating because the Patriots prevailed. And besides, everyone was more interested in making excuses for the Colts ... and taking solace in the closeness of the game (giving everyone hope that New England's 19-0 season isn't a foregone conclusion). Few noticed the Patriots needed just nine minutes of quality football to defeat an undefeated Super Bowl champion on the road, or that they pulled off the comeback despite having 95 percent of the borderline calls go against them.

    [ 1 ] I knew the Pats were in trouble less than three minutes into the game, when Aaron Moorehead's entire left foot landed out of bounds on a first-down catch. Standing 10 feet away from him on either side, two officials improbably decided Moorehead landed inbounds, forcing the Patriots to waste a challenge to overturn a miserable call.

    [ 2 ] Of course, that moment wasn't one-tenth as egregious as the play when Ellis Hobbs got tackled from behind by Reggie Wayne while trying to catch an interception (8:58 remaining, second quarter), followed by the officials' whistling Hobbs for a 40-yard pass interference penalty because he made the mistake of bringing down Wayne's arms with his back. ....


    [ 3 ] Throughout the game, the sketchy calls kept coming and coming. Like the head-scratching no-call when Dallas Clark pulled down Rodney Harrison as Harrison tried to catch an end-zone interception on Indy's first drive (10:09 remaining, first quarter).

    [ 4 ] Like Asante Samuel's drawing a pass-interference penalty on an uncatchable 40-yard bomb that set up Indy's first field goal (4:14 remaining, first quarter).

    [ 5 ] Like the incredible no-call when Moorehead blocked Rashad Baker in the back (how did Jim Nantz and Phil Simms both miss this?!?!?!?) to spring Joe Addai's 73-yard touchdown at the end of the first half.

    [ 6 ] Like the 15-yard "unsportsmanlike conduct" call on Matt Light after Gary Brackett's interception, of which CBS couldn't even find a replay (14:04 remaining, fourth quarter).

    Wait, there's more! [ 7 ] There was the no-call when Rosie Colvin got held while trying to sack Peyton Manning on a crucial third-and-15 that the Colts ended up converting on their last touchdown drive (12:52 remaining, fourth quarter).

    [ 8 ] Or the no-call on Indy's final drive when Bryan Fletcher was blocking Colvin at the end of a running play, got frustrated and ripped Colvin's helmet off right in front of an official (2:55 remaining, fourth quarter).

    [ 9 ] Or the no-call when Kevin Faulk got hooked directly in front of an official while reaching for a third-and-21 pass over the middle, followed by Tom Brady's flipping out and berating the official involved.

    [ 10 ] Or a pivotal first-and-goal interference call on Randy Moss when he made the mistake of running forward for five yards and turning around, which nearly murdered the Pats because they were trailing by 10 points and suddenly looking at first-and-goal from the 12 with less than nine minutes to play.

    (Note: I'd give you the exact times on those last two plays, but both of them were mysteriously deleted from the NFL Network's official replay of the game. Hmmmmmm.)

    All in all, the Pats were whistled for a whopping 146 yards in penalties, a single-game record for the franchise. .... It's one thing to have incompetent officiating for a football game; it's another thing to see nearly every call and non-call benefit the same team. In 60 minutes of play, only one borderline call went against the Colts -- a holding penalty on their second-to-last drive that erased a 25-yard Addai run. The final tally for the Colts: four penalties, 25 yards. We haven't seen homefield advantage work that well since Hitler invaded Russia.

    .... we've never seen it in football. So, yeah, you could say this happened. You could also say Roger Goodell doesn't want the Patriots to go 19-0, and the referees acted accordingly Sunday.

    So let's just settle on the word "fishy." That Pats-Colts game was a little fishy. ....


    In this age of imagery we still need a comparably comprehensive
    video montage
    of all these inconceivable "mistakes".
    Anyone got the tools, the talent, and the technique?
     
  17. Pats Fan in Indy

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    Door #2. However, if the Pats lost in the playoffs, that would probably be the most painful loss of all time.

    Maybe 2nd most painful.

    I'd say Game 6 1986 is #1
    If the Pats lost in the playoffs to the Colts after going undefeated... #1A

    Not gonna happen though.
     
  18. Bostonian1962

    Bostonian1962 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Great post. Great article. I'm having a big problem with that game, and the number of poor calls against the Pats. I should first say, I have NEVER been one to be very critical of the officiating. I usually disagree with anybody saying any particular game is fixed, or that anybody is biased against a team......UNTIL NOW.

    I TIVO'd the game, as I usually do. If anybody else did, take a look at the block in the back that Simmons talks about, on the Addai run. It was blatant. You couldn't miss it.

    On the call against the Pats for forcing the Colt player out of bounds on the return. I looked at that play a dozen times. Both players looked like they were welded together. They were linked together, and went out of bounds together. YOU CANNOT tell that one player or the other was the force that made them go out of bounds. It's impossible. But it was called, and on the Patriots player.

    On the Moss offensive interference call, he did nothing. He did not touch the other player. He didn't hook with his arm. He didn't at all push off. There was nothing to flag him on. I thought a ref had to make a call on something he saw. That was so incredibly suspicious. It wasn't even like there was something he did that could have been missinterpreted.

    The take down of Faulk was blatant too, and out in the open. The guy wrapped his arm around him.

    Usually, when there are blown calls, it goes both ways, or there is only one or two. The fact that there were so many, and everytime they showed the replay it looked like the wrong call, and that they were all against the Patriots really makes me want more done. What can be done?

    The most penalty yards against the Patriots in their entire history, in one of the biggest regular season games ever? I'm furious, and we didn't even lose.

    P.S. - The lame reasoning on the Hobbs penalty made me even hotter. Something rotten happened in that game, and I guarantee nothing will be done about it.
     
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    I felt a little bad when Brady threw a 35-yarder down the sideline in Q4 against the redskins. Not any more. If I'm at the game and the Pats are up 20 with 5 minutes to go and have the ball, I'm cheering "RUN IT UP!!"

    Put out the pirate flag and take no prisoners.
     
  20. Nordberg

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    Great post!

    I watched the NFL replay of the game the other night and still fuming about the 1st down that was given to the Colts on the Addia run on the last drive of the 1st half. Go back and look at that play a few more times. Pathetic spot of the ball.

    Why hasn't that been talked about more. ADDIA WASN'T EVEN CLOSE.....I just don't get it.
     
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