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Better year so far......Brees or Brady?

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  1. TB=TD

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    Tom Brady

    CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT
    277 421 3,627 65.8 8.62 28 99 10 3 105.1


    Drew Brees

    CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT
    323 460 3,689 70.2 8.02 27 79 11 0 103.6

    DYAR Rankings for week 12

    1. Tom Brady-272

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    Over the course of the season, the best quarterback in football has been Aaron Rodgers. However, Rodgers at his best still can't touch Brady when the Patriots quarterback is on a roll. Brady's 272-DYAR day against Philadelphia was the best game for any passer this season. Brady also has the third-best game with 252 DYAR against San Diego (423 yards, three touchdowns) in Week 2; the fourth-best game with 234 DYAR against the Jets (329 yards, three touchdowns) in Week 10; and the sixth-best game with 224 DYAR against Miami (517 yards, four touchdowns) in Week 1. The fifth-best game was Michael Vick's 491-total yard day against San Francisco in Week 4. Can you guess who's in second place? We'll reveal the answer soon!
    2. Drew Brees-261

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    The answer is Drew Brees! His big game against the Giants was his third 200-DYAR game of the year .He also turned the trick in Week 1 against Green Bay and in Week 7 against Indianapolis. Brees and Brady are the only quarterbacks with multiple 200-DYAR games this year.
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    I have no idea what DYAR is, but since all other stats are pretty much equal, I'd have to go with Brees due to his completion %.
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    It's WAR for Football.
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    The all important 11 week comparison. Let's see what next week reveals...or better yet, let's just wait until week 17...or the ultimate test...

    PS...at the end of the day, or the week or the season, stats are for losers.
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    Wins Above Replacement is a statistic that attempts to measure the "total value" of a player over a given season.
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    Brees had a great game last night. He's right up there with Rogers and Brady, IMO. Whoever wins the SB is the best QB out of these three. !a, 1b, and 1c, with Brady as 1a based on toughness and experience in huge games. Can't wait until we play one.

    I'll take the TD's over completions any day.

    Again, the name of the game is to score.
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    What if they replaced each other? Brady to Saints, Brees to Patriots
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    Breez higher completion %, 1 higher INT, 1 less TD, a few more yards. I'd say even except he's a bit more loaded with receiving options.

    I'm going with TB for now, throwing it to smurfs at WR probably takes a toll on accuracy.
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    Actually YPA is a better yardstick because it accounts for BOTH percentage complete and yards gained.
    Both are pretty close on both, but essentially, Bress completes more passes out of 100, but Bradys still add up to more yards.
    ie Brees 70-100-802
    Brady 66-100-862

    I'll take 4 fewer completions to gain the extra 60 yards.
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    Brady would have more weapons while playing in a dome with a great crowd and Brees would have less weapons with horrible weather conditions:D
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    so let us act like losers and let the pats win games.:cool:
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    I doubt Brees or Rogers would be real keen on swapping...I think Brady could own the NFC. That OL in NO was well built to keep defenders off the undersized QB and keep his throwing lanes open. I doubt either would seemlessly adjust to locating undersized WR's who achieve little seperation, although both would probably be OK with the TE swaps...
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    The fact that Brees put up those kind of numbers against a Giants D that shut us out for an entire half tips the scale in favor of Drew (so far).
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    NE and NO have had only one common opponent so far...both hosting the NY Giants.
    QBS had similar yardage vs G Men....but Brady had 2 TDs, 2 INTs, 1 Fumble.....Brees had 4 TDs, 0 INTs, 1 Rushing TD, 0 fumbles.

    I was going to give Brees the nod based on accuracy...but playing indoors is such an advantage...and more importantly.....

    Brees has lost to TWO CRAPPY teams... Saint Louis and Tampa......cardinal sin for elite QB to lose to horrible teams

    Winner.....Brady

    PS......hope Giants and Buffalo win a few more games so I can overlook two Patriots losses to two potentially bad teams
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    The Giants Defensive line was decimated with injuries. BTW they lost to the Rams and are horrible away from their dome.
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    Lets talk after TFB shreds the Colts defense.
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    Brees plays in a dome and overall i'd give the nod to Breesuses receivers.
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    Losing one player is hardly what I would call a decimation. Osi is one of their best players, but he is not the only linemen.
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    Brady, Rodgers, Brees. These guys are all champions. Proven winners. I'd love to see a matchup of either Brady vs Rodgers or Brady vs Brees in the Superbowl. There's gonna be a lot of points scored!

    The stats, eh, they are alright, but pretty even. So I'll go with the guy who brings home with the Lombardi as tihs years best QB. Unless the guy is useless in actually helping win - ie see Big Ben's first championship win where the Steelers won despite him.
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    The zebras were the MVP's for the Steelers in that game.
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    only one stat matters....the QB with the better year will still be standing in February.
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    If it's one of these three, probably. But not absolutely. What if Smith or Cutler or Flacco or god forbid...Tebow is the last QB standing???
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    1 SB win for those guys get's them trent dilfor status, never mentioned after that year.

    repeating 2 plus get's them Bradshaw or Aikmen status, never mentioned in a GOAT conversation. just a great team convo

    my guess
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    I can't compare till next monday. Brady still has to pad his stats against Indy too.
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    You guys are kidding right? Brees has the best weapons I have ever seen. He gets to throw to a 6'6 freak # 1 Wide Receiver Marquis Colston..while Brady has nothing but 5'8 midget WRs to throw too. Not to mention Lance Moore, Devery Henderson, Robert Meachem...all easily faster than any WR we got on our team. Tight Ends Graham vs Gronk is a wash.

    It amazes me the amazing stats Brady is able to put up with aging midget WRs. Give him a few young tall fast studs and he would break records again.
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    Why would you say whomever wins the SB is automatically the best QB out of the three?? Football is to much of a team sport to state things that easily. For one, I'd say that the Saints have the better defense out of the Packers and the Patriots which gives Brees a nice advantage there. The teammates surrounding Brees and Rodgers have both won SB's before as well and know what it takes to get there unlike the teammates surrounding Tom Brady for the most part. The Pats probably have the worst defense out of the 3 as well, so to me Tom Brady is going to have to be a little bit more brilliant in the playoffs than what will be demanded of Rodgers and Brees, but we'll see. I think it will come down to circumstances and how each QB wills their team to win and how they overcome what is in front of them. If Rodgers wins the SB where his defense plays lights out and he has great protection to throw a ton of TD's and yards while Brady is getting hit left and right in a loss where the defense makes a ton of mistakes or other players on offense are fumbling the ball and stuff like that, then does that make Rodgers the better QB?? I don't think so. I think you've got to look at the entire picture.
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    If you put Brady on the Saints, I think that they would be improved. If you put Brees on the Patriots, I think that they would be worse. The reason being that the Saints have better WRs and RBs than the Pats do, and even at TE, the Pats are better overall but the Saints have Graham. There are just a ton of weapons in that offense.

    On that basis, I'll take Brady, although it's not like you can go wrong with either of them. They're both clearly top-3 NFL QBs.
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    LETS SLOW DOWN HERE..........

    IF ( Coming to America funny part - YouTube <-- Tebow in disguise ) Tebow wins a Superbowl this year I dont think I can watch football anymore if the NFL cant figure out how to stop a QB that throws 4 passes a game.
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