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They really need to keep this defense intact and even add another piece or two. One more season in this system together and I think they will be a top 2-3 defense. One more front seven defender and a safety and it is going to be incredibly good. I think the front seven defender will be another hybrid who can play DE and OLB. I think what we are seeing this season is just aprecursor of what is to come from this defense. Jones, Collins, Hightower, Easeley, Ninkovich, and Ayers are all malleable b players who can be moved all around and create serious confusion and havoc for opposing offenses. It reminds me of the Tom Waits song---What's He Building In There.

The Pats are almost there. To have a top 2-3 defense you really need to do 3 things well:

1. Limit the run without stacking the box. That makes teams one-dimensional, takes away play action, and limits the ability for opposing offenses to create mismatches by forcing opposing defenses to stack the box to commit to stopping the run.

2. Bring effective pressure (both outside and interior) in a variety of ways, both with a straight DL and with a variety of creative blitzes and pressure packages. Interior pressure is at least as important as outside pressure, as it takes away the ability to step up in the pocket, provides a straighter path to the QB, and rattles most QBs. It's QB kryptonite. A 3- or 4- man rush that can get pressure is ideal in many ways, but "pass rush flexibility" creatively scheming pressure may be necessary, and may also help to keep QBs off balance. Having a deep rotation of pass rushers keeps guys fresh and wears down the opposing OL.

3. Create "disruption at the perimeter", and flood the middle of the field, making it extremely difficult for the passing game to function effectively, especially if there is pressure. Disrupt the passing routes, force QBs to throw into small windows, and punish them, and you make it extremely difficult for opposing QBs. The Pats have done a good job of this.

Do all of those things consistently and you make it extremely hard for opposing offenses to function effectively. If you can do all of those things out of sub - including stopping the run without stacking the box - then it becomes even harder. Andy Johnson has argued convincingly that this seems to be a goal for BB.

Seattle has the only defense right now that can do all 3 of these things consistently. Most of the other very good defenses are flawed, either with excellent DLs and ordinary secondaries (Detroit, Buffalo, KC) or excellent secondaries and a lesser front 7 (Arizona). The Pats are tantalizingly close. They have the secondary (though they could use an upgrade with a "star" LB/S/slot CB hybrid that Chung, Wilson and Ebner have all played this season). They have the LBs. They still need a bit more depth and talent in the front 7 to take things to the next level, but they are close, especially if Dominique Easley develops next season.

I posted this on the defensive blueprint thread on the draft board yesterday:
Some really nice DL and EDGE players in this draft, with a few still undecided:

DT Eddie Goldman
DT Malcolm Brown
DT Jordan Phillips
DT/DE Carl Davis
[DE/DT DeForest Buckner]
DE/DT Mario Edwards
DE/DT Arik Armstead
DE/DT Marcus Hardison
EDGE Danielle Hunter
EDGE Max Valles
EDGE Bud Dupree
EDGE Dante Fowler
[EDGE Shilique Calhoun]
EDGE Owamagbe Odighizuwa
EDGE Noah Spence
EDGE Preston Smith
EDGE Marcus Golden
EDGE Corey Crawford
Off LB/EDGE Bernardrick McKinney

I think the Pats are 2 guys away from having as deep and talented a front 7 group as there is in the NFL. We currently have:

DT Vince Wilfork
DT Alan Branch (UFA)
DT Sealver Siliga (ERFA)
DT Chris Jones
DT/DE Dominique Easley
DE/DT Zach Moore
EDGE Chandler Jones
EDGE Rob Ninkovich
EDGE Akeem Ayers (UFA)
EDGE/ILB Dont'a Hightower
EDGE/ILB Jamie Collins
EDGE Michael Buchanan
EDGE Darius Fleming
Off LB Jerod Mayo
Off LB Jonathan Casillas (UFA)

Wilfork (33), Ninkovich (soon to be 31) and Branch (30) are the only guys over 30. Jerod Mayo (28) and Jonathan Casillas (27) are the only other guys over 25 Add 1 DT or DE/DT and 1 EDGE player, and the Pats have incredibly deep and talented group.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...c91-is-a-bust-and-wasnt-a-need.1114631/page-5 (post #1637)

I think that if the Pats extend Revis and re-sign McCourty, Ayers, Branch, Casillas, Siliga and Chung (or even better, somehow manage to get someone like Kenny Vaccaro from New Orleans) that they are only a couple of players away from having a top 2-3 defense. Add another athletic big DT in the middle who can take over for Wilfork in 2016 and a rotational DE or DE/OLB, and the Pats will have a really deep and versatile stable of guys who they can rotate to keep guys fresh, and switch things up.
 
The Pats are almost there. To have a top 2-3 defense you really need to do 3 things well:

1. Limit the run without stacking the box. That makes teams one-dimensional, takes away play action, and limits the ability for opposing offenses to create mismatches by forcing opposing defenses to stack the box to commit to stopping the run.

2. Bring effective pressure (both outside and interior) in a variety of ways, both with a straight DL and with a variety of creative blitzes and pressure packages. Interior pressure is at least as important as outside pressure, as it takes away the ability to step up in the pocket, provides a straighter path to the QB, and rattles most QBs. It's QB kryptonite. A 3- or 4- man rush that can get pressure is ideal in many ways, but "pass rush flexibility" creatively scheming pressure may be necessary, and may also help to keep QBs off balance. Having a deep rotation of pass rushers keeps guys fresh and wears down the opposing OL.

3. Create "disruption at the perimeter", and flood the middle of the field, making it extremely difficult for the passing game to function effectively, especially if there is pressure. Disrupt the passing routes, force QBs to throw into small windows, and punish them, and you make it extremely difficult for opposing QBs. The Pats have done a good job of this.

Do all of those things consistently and you make it extremely hard for opposing offenses to function effectively. If you can do all of those things out of sub - including stopping the run without stacking the box - then it becomes even harder. Andy Johnson has argued convincingly that this seems to be a goal for BB.

Seattle has the only defense right now that can do all 3 of these things consistently. The Pats are tantalizingly close. They have the secondary (though they could use an upgrade with a "star" LB/S/slot CB hybrid that Chung, Wilson and Ebner have all played this season). They still need a bit more depth and talent in the front 7 to take things to the next level, but they are close.

I posted this on the defensive blueprint thread on the draft board yesterday:



http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...c91-is-a-bust-and-wasnt-a-need.1114631/page-5 (post #1637)

I think that if the Pats extend Revis and re-sign McCourty, Ayers, Branch, Casillas, Siliga and Chung (or even better, somehow manage to get someone like Kenny Vaccaro from New Orleans) that they are only a couple of players away from having a top 2-3 defense. Add another athletic big DT in the middle who can take over for Wilfork in 2016 and a rotational DE or DE/OLB, and the Pats will have a really deep and versatile stable of guys who they can rotate to keep guys fresh, and switch things up.


Thanks Mayo, agree completely. Really looking forward to the future with this defense.
 
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Combine numbers are all nice but they don't really translate that well into actual impact on the field. The most important thing on defense is to process and read situations that unfold at a crazy speed in front of you correctly.

Those fractions of seconds that somebody can run faster around cones wont matter if they lose three times the time recognizing what is going on. Thats the difference between a third down stop or a slant for a TD.

The famous Bruschi quote on how to play Linebacker, "It's simple. You just go to where the hole IS GOING TO BE, and tackle the RB when he gets there..."
 
It reminds me of the Tom Waits song---What's He Building In There.

That seems obvious.

To borrow from Plucky Duck, he's building the "Angry Amoeba" Defense. :D
 
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