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  1. Fixit

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    Uh, what?

    Concerned about concussions, Goodell said the league will keep looking for ways to make the game safer. Speaking on CBS's "Face the Nation" hours before the Super Bowl, he didn't rule out the idea of banning the three-point stance for linemen to reduce the ferocity of collisions at the line of scrimmage.


    Roger Goodell: NFL could ban 3-point stance - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN
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    Please, make this IDIOT stop!

    I read this buffoonery refrerenced in Peter Kings' column and I just thought "this fool is turning this game into basketball". All Offense, no Defense, no hitting or hurting another player. What's next...No keeping SCORE?!

    Dear Commissioner, please GO AWAY!
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    Yeah this is ridiculous, if anything the most damaging collisions are between offense and LBs or safeties in the running game, where guys get a full head of steam before making impact. What are they going to do, eliminate running the football? Oh wait, I probably shouldn't give Goodell and Polian any ideas...

    You can't remove the violence from the game without turning it into something else. Improved equipment needs to be the answer here IMO.
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    Actually, although I am not a fan of this idea, I think this rule will be a huge advantage for the defense, not the offense. Having their o-linemen in two point stances, would seriously hinder QBs from making presnap reads because it will be difficult to see over either line to the LBs and DBs. O-linemen gain leverage on running plays by getting under the pads of the defender. It will be tougher to do this if both guys are in a two point stance.
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    I think the key here is to make helmet to helmet contact an automatic ejection from the game plus the forfeiture of a game check.

    Eliminating 3 point is idiotic, because plenty of concussions occur way after the snap when every player has long since left their stance.
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    Conversely, d lineman gain leverage for rushing in a similar manner.

    Net result, you can't run effectively, because you can't block effectively, and you can't bull rush the passer effectively. And what does this lead to>>>Pass only league, UGH
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    Do you have any idea how hard it is to avoid helmet to helmet contact on the O-Line and D-Line? If you put that rule into effect, we'd be seeing teams' third string lines by the end of the game.
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    Good idea. Eliminate the three point stance to reduce collisions between lineman, and increase collisions with the QB. Duh.
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    Couldn't linemen just get around that by starting in a crouched 2 point stance and just not put their hand down?
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    Blocking is all about leverage. In order to get leverage, you have to get as low as possible, put your hands under the shoulder pads, and drive. The three point stance helps that happen because you can shift the majority of your weight on to your planted hand and explode off of the balls of your feet (due to the fact that you're leaning forward the whole time). That just would not be possible in a two point stance, unless you're a ballerina (which NFL linemen are not). The running game would suffer BIG TIME with this rule change.
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    It's obvious to me now.
    Commissioner Goodell just does not like this game.
    Impeach the beahstid.:rocker:
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    It all makes sense to me now. I think proposed rule changes like this are what's keeping the Patriots from paying Wilfork. Mind you, like Reiss says we don't know what the Pats are offering and what Wilfork is looking for. Propose changes like this, I'm sure scares the heck out of BB from paying Wilfork big money because that would really affect of he plays.
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    Ironically, the whole reason the 3-point stance was introduced was because in the early days, guys would sling punches at the guy across the line from them.

    "Dancing is a contact sport. Football is a hitting sport." - Vince Lombardi ;)
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    I'm no expert, but it seems to me banning the 3 point stance would significantly change the game. This does not seem like a good idea.
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    My stance is that Goodell should do a one-point landing on his head from the top of the Empire State Building.
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    I would probably give that 9 points out of 10.
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    it's obvious what needs to be done

    eliminate the three brain-celled Jetdell
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    I meant intentional, as in Ray Lewis intentional.
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    No, this is the textbook WRONG way to be in a 3 point stance. You want your weight on the balls of your feet with your hand just resting lightly on the ground.

    When you get in a forward-leaning stance you are 1. telling the defense it is a running play. 2. Telling the defense that you will not be pulling. 3. Making it easy for a DL or LB to simply faceplant you by pushing on your back or pulling you forward.
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    hmm.... now if we can only get the o-line to train with the speed skating team.

    Or maybe sumo

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