Wax Frog
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Interesting to see people constantly bring up Welker (certainly not meaning to single anyone out). While I definitely think his presence would have helped, I also think that we'd be having the same discussion regarding the other receivers, or lack thereof to put it bluntly.
I'm not sure that Welker would have been able to do much more than Amendola (10 catches) and Edelman (13 catches) in the first 2 games. That doesn't mean that I don't miss him, or that I don't think he'd have helped more, just that Welker seems to be the go-to guy in many of these discussions and that is somewhat suprising to me.
The problem may have been letting Llyod walk, not offering Sanders more to guarantee PIT not being able to match, and/or just bringing in too many rookies in the same year. This of course was coupled with the TE situation which only made things worse, but I'm personally not as worried about the loss of Welker and the slot position at the current moment.
The forum pessimism is getting to me - when I first saw this topic out of the corner of my eye, I'd swear it said, "Amendola Released" :crazy:
The problem is you are measuring Welker/Edelman by number of catches, rather than quality of catches.
Edelman can rarely do more than catch a screen or short slant the D is playing off and allowing. Edelmans 13 catches were simply not productive. 3 yards on 2nd and 10 is a victory for the defense, they will let him have those all day.
Welker threatened a defense, Edelman caught short passes in front of a defense that was OK giving up 3 yard throws.
If Welker played, and got 18 targets, they would have been different routes, more productive and added up to a much better offensive day.
The offense was limited by not having other people to throw to, but it was much more limited by the limitations of the man they were throwing to.
Is Devery Henderson still out there? I think another vet would go a long way.
Apparently NE never called Lloyd despite what previous reports said.
Simple put that's not going to happen. These are kids with little experience will improve but not enough. When they start to catching a few balls (TB game) Atlanta will come in and destroy them, followed by Cinn. and then the closing kill will be NO. Pats took a risk and failed to date. They will win the division. Playoffs are another story.
I agree, but are you sure about that winning the division thing?Simple put that's not going to happen. These are kids with little experience will improve but not enough. When they start to catching a few balls (TB game) Atlanta will come in and destroy them, followed by Cinn. and then the closing kill will be NO. Pats took a risk and failed to date. They will win the division. Playoffs are another story.
I agree, but are you sure about that winning the division thing?
Well they have to wait a month and a half, when both Amendola and Gronk will be back, assuming no major setbacks for either.I hope you're right, but you just gotta know that Miami is absolutely licking its collective chops
waiting to face us.
I hope you're right, but you just gotta know that Miami is absolutely licking its collective chops
waiting to face us.
Tomorrow will be one of the very few days during which I will be rooting for the Indy Clots
to win a game.
...Everyone take a breath, This is going exactly as its supposed to...
The problem is you are measuring Welker/Edelman by number of catches, rather than quality of catches.
Edelman can rarely do more than catch a screen or short slant the D is playing off and allowing. Edelmans 13 catches were simply not productive. 3 yards on 2nd and 10 is a victory for the defense, they will let him have those all day.
Welker threatened a defense, Edelman caught short passes in front of a defense that was OK giving up 3 yard throws.
If Welker played, and got 18 targets, they would have been different routes, more productive and added up to a much better offensive day.
The offense was limited by not having other people to throw to, but it was much more limited by the limitations of the man they were throwing to.
No, it's not, and pretending otherwise is both needless and foolish.
Their offer was fine. It was enough that it would have been stupid for the Steelers to match, but they did anyway. The Steelers currently have only $1.5M in cap room this season, are already over the projected cap for next season with only 40 players under contract, and are going nowhere this season. Belichick offered to give them an extra pick to start their rebuilding process, but they were delusional to think they needed to keep Sanders and attempt to make a run. Outside of making it impossible for them to match (which we know now would have taken about a $4M offer), there's not really anything you can do except hope the other teams makes the right decision for their future, and they didn't.It's pathetic that we couldn't give Emmanuel Sanders a better offer. He would have been a darn good receiver in this system--he wasn't expensive at all.