Are you confident in this coaching staff's ability to make halftime adjustments?

[The Dynasty]

Exactly WHAT worked "brilliantly" in the first half? In the first quarter they had the ball for 13:58 to the Jets 1:02 and came away with a fat goose egg. Is that what you call "brilliant?"

I think he is right. They went away from what worked in the 1st half. They didnt really need to make any adjustments offensively. In the first half they ran the ball, even though it wasnt very effective it set up the deep ball and the TE's and Welker over the middle. In the 2nd half when Revis went out the team focused on trying to throw to Moss instead of using what worked in the 1st half.

Whats wrong with completing dominating TOP anyway?

 

[DropKickFlutie]

The offensive problems in the 2nd half existed all of last season as well.

The Patriots defense didn't well play enough to win today, but just like several games last year, the Patriots offense did nothing in the 2nd half and left the D out there to fry.

The fact that it is a glaring 2nd half problem, points to adjustment issues, which is likely still due to O'Brien's inexperience.

Any good defensive coordinator playing against us will probably enjoy the same success, until O'Brien learns that play calling is more like playing poker than it is just relying on pure execution.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Last year, the Pats scored 66% of their points in the first half and only 34% in the second, way off their average breakdown of 50--50 over the last 10 years. So far this season, it's 73--27 first half over second half. Not much has changed.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

The one thing they continued to do in the second half was make costly mistakes. There's nothing wrong with the playcalling per se, it's the lack of consistent execution.

Play calling and execution are linked though.

You can't keep blaming execution on lack of talent alone, and give play calling a free pass. Last year the tight ends and lack of a good 3rd receiver were blamed for why the offense lost several games for the Patriots last year, because it couldn't convert key 3rd down situations or close out some games. The offense was one of the worst in the league in terms of 2nd half performance last year.

This team's offense is loaded with weapons. We have 3 legit tight ends, better receivers behind Moss and Welker too.

The 2nd half of today's game was similar to several games last year - the offense basically kept getting quick 3-and-outs, and left the defense out there way too long.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

It is absolutely amazing how we still read the same people always citing "execution." Bullcrap to that. They can only execute what they are told to run, and if the plays sent in are sh!t, they wont work, plain and simple.... and that, as you and many others say, happened all of last year, mostly in second halfs of games, and then again today....

Right now this team has talented offensive players... and they are being fed a pile of crap by the offensive play callers, whoever the hell they may be.

If you are the best poker player in the world and the dealer is dealing you crap, you won't win. Same here. Deal the greatest football players in the world plays that are doomed, then they too will not win.

It is so easy to blame the fact when things dont work on "execution" but it most often goes far deeper than that.

Pitiful. Disgraceful. Totally asinine.

^ What he said.

To further illustrate the poker analogy, even the best poker players in the world admit that they switch up their play and style during tournaments, because once players pick up on your strategy, you need to play differently in order to keep winning. I think football is a lot more like poker than it is a pure execution sport like golf or bowling. The play calls of offense vs. defense on every single play, make a huge difference for how the players perform on the field.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

And why those in this forum that still refuse to believe it, well, totally illogical. (Thank you Mister Spock)

I think that some of the posters here that repeatedly blame it on execution rather than the obvious play calling issue, are possibly members of the media or members of the Patriots organization (or members of their families). In other words, in a position that makes them even more biased than the most homerish fan.

 

[VJCPatriot]

So you think BB won 3 lombardis without being able to make a half time adjustment?

The coaching staff is completely different from the superbowl years. The guys calling the plays now. They haven't looked very effective lately have they?

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

This year there is no excuse on offense. We have plenty of weapons and Brady has had a year to get back into form, many of us believed he was. If this 2nd half trend of inept offense continues that is on the coaches, plain and simple.

 

[patsfan-1982]

the pats faced the best defense in the NFL so we knew they were not going to put up a lot of points and the defense dose not have a nuff talent to even stop a weak offense

 

[RayClay]

Whether they have a running game (questionable) or some good tight ends and other receivers (they do) the second half adjustment is the same as it's been since 2007. Don't run, don't mix it up, throw to Moss or Welker, or only one if one is hurt.

 

[condon84]

We need real coordinators. Someone who's got enough clout to tell Bill that the defensive game plan may be flawed. And someone in offense that can take advantage of all the weapons we have.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Whether they have a running game (questionable) or some good tight ends and other receivers (they do) the second half adjustment is the same as it's been since 2007. Don't run, don't mix it up, throw to Moss or Welker, or only one if one is hurt.

This is pretty much the offense now. If a skilled opponent realizes our #1 and #2 options, whoever they are for a particular game, then this offense gets completely shut down.

I was hoping Welker wouldn't return so quickly so the offense could learn to succeed without him, but it's still so entirely dependent on him to the point where if he isn't in the game, the offense does absolutely nothing.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

This year there is no excuse on offense. We have plenty of weapons and Brady has had a year to get back into form, many of us believed he was. If this 2nd half trend of inept offense continues that is on the coaches, plain and simple.

Agree completely. I wish some of your fellow mods would finally admit this too.

 

[sieglo]

Hasn't anyone else noticed that the offense completely collapsed after the dirty hit on Welker when he went out?

 

[NJPatsfan26]

Hasn't anyone else noticed that the offense completely collapsed after the dirty hit on Welker when he went out?

I did notice that and wonder if that was deliberate.

 

[shmessy]

We lost today mostly due to a young secondary ...

Which is not unexpected and it is not new.

The team is adjusting to some changes on both sides of the ball.

As always we'll know what we have by weeks 6-8.

How many points did our vaunted offense score in the second half yesterday?

How many points did our vaunted offense score in the second half of the Bengals game?

Look at the boxscores from last year. See a trend?

 

[shmessy]

No, they didn't. The trouble was it didn't work brilliantly in the first half and it didn't work at all in the second half. Couldn't run, couldn't catch, couldn't convert on third down. The JETS lost Revis and stepped up. The Patriots stepped back. The one thing they continued to do in the second half was make costly mistakes. There's nothing wrong with the playcalling per se, it's the lack of consistent execution.

Mo, for the past two years, almost every game (even the wins) it's the same.

Look at the first halves compared to the seconds.

It's too much of a repetitive pattern for anyone not to notice. If BB doesn't want to countence this, he will just be continuing to dig a deeper rabbit hole.

 

[captain stone]

As the title says "Are you confident in this coaching staff's ability to make the proper halftime adjustments?

My answer is an unequivocal, history-based No...Hell No...F No.

This is what happens when on-the-field decisions are micro-managed by an out-of-touch central authority because the people who should make those decisions are inexperienced and/or incompetent.

 

[captain stone]

I did notice that and wonder if that was deliberate.

It was.

I now have another enemy to wish dead, and his name is Eric Smith.

 

[SyN65]

No, and anybody voting yes is delusional.

They couldn't do it last year and so far 2 games in they can't do it this year.