Are you confident in this coaching staff's ability to make halftime adjustments?

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Did you see any adjustments today? Try to stay on the same page.

How much adjusting does a team do when they are winning? You adjust more when you are losing than when you are winning. You don't change what is working. First half was working. Second half was the problem.

 

[blackglass3]

So you think BB won 3 lombardis without being able to make a half time adjustment?

Look man, I *love* Belichick. But something is wrong with this team. It wasn't all on AD, Dean Pees, or any of the other reasons we thought it might be last year.

The problem of "hiring within" that the Patriots have done is that it breeds a "Yes Man" group of guys. If you start out as a video assistant hired by Belichick and you eventually get promoted to DC, you're not going to disagree with that guy. He brought you up from nothing and taught you tons...you're not going to go into the locker room at halftime and disagree with him.

Once of the great things about Belichick was how many different people and personalities he worked for. He wasn't in one system his whole life like most of our coaches these days are.

In short, we're doomed to living and dying by Belichick until he hires an OC or DC from outside that can call a spade a spade.

 

[BradyFTW!]

So you think BB won 3 lombardis without being able to make a half time adjustment?

I think it's pretty clear that, at least on the offensive side of the ball, Belichick isn't the one making the adjustments.

 

[TheComeback]

Another thread full of people panicking after a loss.

 

[reflexblue]

Good catch, but since you don't appear to be drinking with the Kool gang, we didn't have this conversation.

Hmm so your here to enlighten all of us, to guide us down the path of knowledge. To part the curtain and reveal to us the realities of the Patriots. I don't think so.

 

[shmessy]

This has been going on for the past two years.

The second half continues to be when the Patriots get their asses handed to them. That should have been a 14-2 team last year if the coaching staff could have kept it together for the second halves.

It is too much of a verified trend, this haltime lead stuff followed by second half dominations by opposing teams. Hell, we see it even in victories. The coaching staff, evidently, is able to gameplan during the week, but not during the game. They cannot improvise at all.

This is a key organizational problem that cannot be igonored.

 

[TriplecHamp]

Yes I am confident int he staffs ability to make adjustments but they never seem to show up in the second half. They will get it eventually right?

 

[IcyPatriot]

We lost today mostly due to a young secondary ...

Which is not unexpected and it is not new.

The team is adjusting to some changes on both sides of the ball.

As always we'll know what we have by weeks 6-8.

 

[Bobs My Uncle]

How much adjusting does a team do when they are winning? You adjust more when you are losing than when you are winning. You don't change what is working. First half was working. Second half was the problem.

Good staffs must adjust to the other teams adjustments at halftime. Far too often this Patriot staff is unable to make adjustments to the other teams halftime adjustments.

It never used to be like this when the Pats were in dynasty mode. Back then, it was the opposition that would fail to make adjustments to what the Pats staff did. Or the Pats would successfully counter the other teams adjustments and put the game away. It's been so long since this has been the case that I'm forgetting what it is like to actually come out in a second half knowing that it will be coaching that wins the game for us if the game goes down to the wire. And this is so un-Belichick like.

 

[Garbanza]

As the title says "Are you confident in this coaching staff's ability to make the proper halftime adjustments?

Hell no. No screens, no welker, no edelman, no te's in teh second half. Whomever is the OC...well, he sucks. Enough with the long ball. I am all done with that. A couple of times, sure...all the time? No!

 

[BradyFTW!]

He is the head coach. He is the boss. Allegedly he is one of the smalrtest coaches in the NFL. He can change anything he wants to change. That's why he wears headsets, with that little thing attached to it that is called a microphone.

He hears the plays being sent in. He can speak up.

Coordinators have a job to do too. Belichick is a human being, he can't do three jobs by himself.

 

[PromisedLand]

So you think BB won 3 lombardis without being able to make a half time adjustment?

Do you really need to be reminded that those 3 Lombardis were won with different players and different assistants than he has now? Actually, let me rephrase that: they were won with different players, and with ASSISTANTS. He had Weis and Crennel (both of whom were available in the offseason) and he has no coordinators now.

 

[Garbanza]

Sir, you have nailed it, as others in this thread have, too.

UNfortunately, there are some amongst us who think that they know a hell of a lot more than some others, and are constantly berating those that have a different opinion

This game, today, was a prime example how one team's coaching staff made adjustments and changes, on both sides of the ball, while the other team's coaching staff did not, and were unwilling, or unable, to counter with changes of their own .

That, in addition, to a very weak first half in which the Patriots could have, and should have, had more points on the scoreboard. The Jets had been set up perfectly for play action, screens, and even a no huddle type offense, but the Pats coaches refused to adjust to take what was being given to them. It appeared as if, in the first quarter, that they went with the scripted plays even though a minor change, on first and second downs, more than likely have led to a much more productive first quarter.

Here's the facts...

The Pats had the ball for 13:52 of the first quarter.

The Jets had the ball for 1:02 in the first quarter.

The Pats scored ZERO POINTS in the first quarter.

SORRY, BUT THAT IS INEXCUSABLE. Play calling was horrendous. They had opportunities for a lot of play action, some screens, some quick inside hits, maybe even a first down deep post.... none were tried.

This was a game in which the coaching must take close to full blame for the defeat. Yes, players play, but when they are put behind the eight ball from a coaching staff that is giving them nothing in the way of success, thats the meat of where the problem was in this game, and, to0 tell the truth... as several other posters have alluded to, for the past couple of seasons, lthis team has been totally outcoached by second half adjustments and change that they have not been able to, or not willing to, countler with change of their own.

Fact is fact, and anyone who continually tries do give the coaches a pass on it, really hasn't got a clue.

Now, on to better things. Whatever the hell they may be.

they had a chance to get Weiss back in the fold. Why didn't they explore that. Why? This nameless OC sucks. And, you have to blame BB here too. It 'aint working....fix it.

 

[OldNEPatsFan]

The whole problem with this team is one person BILL. What this team needs is a good OC, DC, and a GM who knows how to draft players.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

So you think BB won 3 lombardis without being able to make a half time adjustment?

The offensive adjustments made in the 2nd half were to go away fom what worked brilliantly in the 1st half. Bizarre!

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Sir, you have nailed it, as others in this thread have, too.

UNfortunately, there are some amongst us who think that they know a hell of a lot more than some others, and are constantly berating those that have a different opinion

This game, today, was a prime example how one team's coaching staff made adjustments and changes, on both sides of the ball, while the other team's coaching staff did not, and were unwilling, or unable, to counter with changes of their own .

That, in addition, to a very weak first half in which the Patriots could have, and should have, had more points on the scoreboard. The Jets had been set up perfectly for play action, screens, and even a no huddle type offense, but the Pats coaches refused to adjust to take what was being given to them. It appeared as if, in the first quarter, that they went with the scripted plays even though a minor change, on first and second downs, more than likely have led to a much more productive first quarter.

Here's the facts...

The Pats had the ball for 13:52 of the first quarter.

The Jets had the ball for 1:02 in the first quarter.

The Pats scored ZERO POINTS in the first quarter.

SORRY, BUT THAT IS INEXCUSABLE. Play calling was horrendous. They had opportunities for a lot of play action, some screens, some quick inside hits, maybe even a first down deep post.... none were tried.

This was a game in which the coaching must take close to full blame for the defeat. Yes, players play, but when they are put behind the eight ball from a coaching staff that is giving them nothing in the way of success, thats the meat of where the problem was in this game, and, to0 tell the truth... as several other posters have alluded to, for the past couple of seasons, lthis team has been totally outcoached by second half adjustments and change that they have not been able to, or not willing to, countler with change of their own.

Fact is fact, and anyone who continually tries do give the coaches a pass on it, really hasn't got a clue.

Now, on to better things. Whatever the hell they may be.

They missed on a TD and a FG...neither of which was a coordinator or coaches fault. They were never behind the 8 ball in the first half with the exception of the decision to play soft zone D after scoring the second TD rather effortlessly just before the half...

 

[MoLewisrocks]

The offensive adjustments made in the 2nd half were to go away fom what worked brilliantly in the 1st half. Bizarre!

No, they didn't. The trouble was it didn't work brilliantly in the first half and it didn't work at all in the second half. Couldn't run, couldn't catch, couldn't convert on third down. The JETS lost Revis and stepped up. The Patriots stepped back. The one thing they continued to do in the second half was make costly mistakes. There's nothing wrong with the playcalling per se, it's the lack of consistent execution.

 

[sieglo]

When I think that this team could have had Weiss and crennel back at coordinator, I throw up a little in my mouth.

 

[The_Riddler]

They are terrible. I would say Bill is spread a little thin at halftime.

Bill wouldn't think so.............

 

[letekro]

When I think that this team could have had Weiss and crennel back at coordinator, I throw up a little in my mouth.

Just completely false. All the evidence suggests that neither wanted to return.