- Joined
- May 1, 2008
- Messages
- 16,682
- Reaction score
- 3,686
Assume the following pre-draft trades:
1. Denver trades #12 and Jay Cutler to Cleveland for Brady Quinn, #5, #36 and a 2010 1st round pick. Quinn is valued at the 36 pick. Cutler is valued as a 2010 1st rounder and an exchange of 2009 1st round picks. McDaniels gets his 2nd choice for QB (after Matt Cassel) in Quinn. He had hoped to get more for Cutler but wants him gone badly, and needs a QB in the package.
2. Cleveland trades #50 and Derek Anderson to the NY Jets for #17 (550 points, or equivalent in value to their #36 pick, so they get equal value for Quinn and Anderson). The Jets get a big strong-armed QB in the Flacco mold, who Ryan knows from Baltimore.
Round 1:
1. Detroit: Matt Stafford, QB. Stafford reportedly blew Detroit away today.
2. St. Louis: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor. St. Louis goes for the replacement for Orlando Pace to anchor their line.
3. Cleveland: Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest. Pioli gets the cornerstone for his defense.
4. Seattle: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC. Seattle goes for Hasselbeck's replacement over Walter Jones' replacement. Sanchez is their guy for their version of the WCO.
5. Denver: BJ Raji, DT, Boston College. Denver gets the DT to anchor their 3-4 defense.
6. Cincinnati: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia. Bengals can't pass one of the top 2 tackles left.
7. Oakland: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech. Al Davis can't resist getting the "next Fred Belitnikoff". A steal at #7.
8. Jacksonville: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri. Jags get a blazing WR to open up their offense. Michael Oher could be the choice here as well.
9. Green Bay: Brian Orapko, DE/OLB, Texas. Pack gets a talented pass-rusher to put opposite Aaron Kampman in their 3-4.
10. San Francisco: Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn St. Maybin is rising fast, and with the QB's gone SF goes for a pass rusher at OLB. Andre Smith and Rey Maualuga would also be options.
11. Buffalo: Everett Brown, DE/OLB, Florida St. Buffalo gets the pass rusher they crave. Robert Ayers is also an option.
12. Cleveland: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio St. Browns get Cutler and then add a big, talented CB, who should be an upgrade over the 2007 version of Leigh Bodden. Beanie Wells could also be the pick here.
13. Washington: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama. Washington jumps at the chance to get the talented Smith to anchor the right side of their line.
** Trade: New Orleans trades #14 to Detroit for #20 and #65. Saints are desperate to move back into the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
14. Detroit: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi. Detroit gets their LT to protect Stafford. Oher and Cherilous will make nice bookends at tackle.
15. Houston: Brian Cushing, OLB, USC. Houston gets a versatile LB who can play inside or out. Knowshon Moreno and Clay Matthews would also get some consideration.
16. San Diego: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU. Chargers gets\ the top 3-4 DE to the gap left by Igor Olshansky. Rey Maualuga and Knowshon Moreno are also options.
17. Cleveland: Clay Matthews, LB, USC. Mangina gets a 3-4 OLB. Matthews had a great pro day. Connor Barwin and Rey Maualuga are also options here.
18. Chicago: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland. Big, fast threat to open up the passing game.
19. Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas. Bucs get a strong armed QB whom they covet.
20. New Orleans: Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, Ohio St. Saints trade back and still get their version of Thunder to go with Reggie Bush's Lightning.
21. Philadelphia: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St. They wanted Beanie Wells, but settle for a versatile TE. Eben Britton is also an option here.
22. Minnesota: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona. Vikes get a nice RT to go opposite Bryant McKenzie.
** Trade: New England trades #23 and 58 to the NY Giants for #29 and 45.
23. NY Giants: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina. With 3 WRs already gone and hearing that Parcells loves Nicks, the Giants trade up for the big WR they need to replace Plaxico Burress.
24. Atlanta: Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi. Atlanta gets a penetrating DT for their defense.
25. Miami: Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut. With Nicks gone, Miami goes for a fluid, athletic CB. Connor Barwin is an option here.
26. Baltimore: Rey Maualuga, ILB. Baltimore gets a physical ILB to replace Bart Scott and learn under Ray Lewis. Vontae Davis will also get serious consideration here.
27. Indianapolis: Percy Harvin, WR, Florida. Imagine what Peyton Manning can do with Harvin in addition to his other weapons, at both WR and out of the backfield. Nicks is also an option.
28. Philadelphia: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee. Philly loves disruptive defensive lineman, and Ayers will be a good one.
29. New England: Connor Barwin, OLB, Cincinnati. The Pats don't wait until #34 to get their 3-4 OLB. William Beatty is also a possibility.
30. Tennessee: Jarron Gilbert, DT, San Jose St. Titans get a talented big man in the middle who may someday fill the gap left by Haynesworth.
31. Arizona: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia. The Cardinals get their choice to replace the Edge. Moreno slips a bit because of his 40 time, and is a steal here - another Emmit Smith.
32. Pittsburgh: Alex Mack, OG/C, California. Steelers get a powerful, smart anchor for it's biggest area of need.
Round 2:
33. Detroit: James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio St. With QB and OT filled, Detroit goes defense. Laurinaitis will fit in nicely with Julian Peterson and Ernie Sims. Vontae Davis could be the pick here as well.
34. New England: William Beatty, OT, Connecticut. Pats get a potential franchise OT to protect Brady.
35. St. Louis: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois. Detroit takes Laurinaitis, so St. Louis takes Davis. If Detroit takes Davis, St. Louis takes Laurinaitis. Win-win.
36. Denver: Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia. Broncs add a nice 3-4 OLB complement to Jarvis Moss. Larry English and Alphonso Smith are also options here.
** Trade: Seattle trades #37 to New England for #47 and #89.
37. New England: Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan. Pats trade up get their version of Troy Polamalu.
38. Cincinnati: Max Unger, OG/C, Oregon. Bengals get a versatile interior lineman to block for Beanie Wells and Carson Palmer. Eric Wood from nearby Louisville is also an option.
39. Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina. Jags get their OT here.
40. Oakland: Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech. Al Davis gets a physical freak on the DL.
41. Green Bay: Ron Brace, DT, Boston College. Green Bay misses on Raji but gets his teammate to be their 3-4 DT anchor.
** Trade: Buffalo trades #42 to Indianapolis for #61, 92 and 127.
42. Indianapolis: Evander "Ziggy" Hood, DT, Missouri. As in 2007, Indy moves up to cover a need when a player they covet is still available.
43. San Francisco: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest. 9ers wanted Brace but settle for a ball-hawking CB. Kenny Britt and Philip Loadholt are options here.
44. Miami: Larry English, DE/OLB. Phins jump at getting Butler and English with their first 2 picks. This is for Bakes781.
** Trade: New England trades #45 and a conditional 2010 pick to New Orleans for the Saints 2010 1st round pick. Donald Brown and Eric Wood are still on the board, but Pats can't pass up chance to get a 2010 1st rounder.
45. New Orleans: William Moore, S, Missouri. Saints trade up and get their pick of the remaining 3 top safeties.
46. Houston: Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah. Another safety fills a big need.
47. Seattle: Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut. The Hawks trade back but still get their replacement for Shawn Alexander to go with their new QB.
48. Denver: Patrick Chung, S, Oregon. Chung will make a nice replacement for John Lynch, to go with Brian Dawkins.
49. Chicago: Philip Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma. Big road-grader at RT to complement Chris Williams. DJ Moore could also be an option here.
50. NY Jets: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers. Jets get a big WR to complement their strong-armed QB.
51. Dallas: Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma. Wide-body OG to eventually replace Larry Allen.
52. Green Bay: Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa. Packers get a big, bruising runner.
53. Philadelphia: LeSean McCoy, RB, Pittsburgh. "Shady" falls a bit, and will share time with Westbrook.
54. Minnesota: DJ Moore, CB, Vanderbilt. Moore drops a bit, but is good value here. If Chicago goes with Moore, then the Vikings take Loadholt here to complement Bryant McKenzie.
** Trade: Atlanta trades #55 and #125 to Arizona for #63 and #95. With several talented TE's still available, Atlanta trades back.
55. Arizona: Eric Wood, C, Louisville. Arizona fills their other big need on offense with a smart 4 year starter at center. They don't think he'll last to 63, and they're right.
56. Miami: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio St. Miami gets CB, OLB and WR with their first 3 picks. Perfect draft.
57. Baltimore: Coye Francies, CB, San Jose St. The Ravens love big CBs.
58. NY Giants: James Casey, TE, Rice. Giants get a smart, versatile athletic player who can help make up for the loss of Jeremy Shockey.
59. Carolina: Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn. Carolina gets an athletic, penetrating DT.
60. NY Giants: Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio St. LB is the Giant's biggest need left.
61. Buffalo: Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina. Buffalo trades down and still gets a the most athletic TE in the draft.
62. Tennessee: Pat White, QB/WR, West Virginia. Tennessee takes the versatile White as a WR, though they're happy to look at him as a QB option too.
63. Atlanta: Shawn Nelson , TE, Southern Mississippi. Atlanta trades back and still gets an athletic TE for Ryan.
64. Pittsburgh: Fili Moala, DE/DT, USC. Big athletic 3-4 DE.
Musical QBs:
- Cleveland gets Cutler and still manages to get 1st round picks.
- Denver subtracts Cutler but gets Quinn, Raji, Sintim and Chung.
- Jets get Anderson who fits their mold, and a 1st round caliber WR in Britt.
- Detroit gets Stafford, Oher and Laurinaitis.
- Seattle gets Sanchez for their WCO.
- Tampa Bay gets Freeman.
Thoughts?
1. Denver trades #12 and Jay Cutler to Cleveland for Brady Quinn, #5, #36 and a 2010 1st round pick. Quinn is valued at the 36 pick. Cutler is valued as a 2010 1st rounder and an exchange of 2009 1st round picks. McDaniels gets his 2nd choice for QB (after Matt Cassel) in Quinn. He had hoped to get more for Cutler but wants him gone badly, and needs a QB in the package.
2. Cleveland trades #50 and Derek Anderson to the NY Jets for #17 (550 points, or equivalent in value to their #36 pick, so they get equal value for Quinn and Anderson). The Jets get a big strong-armed QB in the Flacco mold, who Ryan knows from Baltimore.
Round 1:
1. Detroit: Matt Stafford, QB. Stafford reportedly blew Detroit away today.
2. St. Louis: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor. St. Louis goes for the replacement for Orlando Pace to anchor their line.
3. Cleveland: Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest. Pioli gets the cornerstone for his defense.
4. Seattle: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC. Seattle goes for Hasselbeck's replacement over Walter Jones' replacement. Sanchez is their guy for their version of the WCO.
5. Denver: BJ Raji, DT, Boston College. Denver gets the DT to anchor their 3-4 defense.
6. Cincinnati: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia. Bengals can't pass one of the top 2 tackles left.
7. Oakland: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech. Al Davis can't resist getting the "next Fred Belitnikoff". A steal at #7.
8. Jacksonville: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri. Jags get a blazing WR to open up their offense. Michael Oher could be the choice here as well.
9. Green Bay: Brian Orapko, DE/OLB, Texas. Pack gets a talented pass-rusher to put opposite Aaron Kampman in their 3-4.
10. San Francisco: Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn St. Maybin is rising fast, and with the QB's gone SF goes for a pass rusher at OLB. Andre Smith and Rey Maualuga would also be options.
11. Buffalo: Everett Brown, DE/OLB, Florida St. Buffalo gets the pass rusher they crave. Robert Ayers is also an option.
12. Cleveland: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio St. Browns get Cutler and then add a big, talented CB, who should be an upgrade over the 2007 version of Leigh Bodden. Beanie Wells could also be the pick here.
13. Washington: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama. Washington jumps at the chance to get the talented Smith to anchor the right side of their line.
** Trade: New Orleans trades #14 to Detroit for #20 and #65. Saints are desperate to move back into the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
14. Detroit: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi. Detroit gets their LT to protect Stafford. Oher and Cherilous will make nice bookends at tackle.
15. Houston: Brian Cushing, OLB, USC. Houston gets a versatile LB who can play inside or out. Knowshon Moreno and Clay Matthews would also get some consideration.
16. San Diego: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU. Chargers gets\ the top 3-4 DE to the gap left by Igor Olshansky. Rey Maualuga and Knowshon Moreno are also options.
17. Cleveland: Clay Matthews, LB, USC. Mangina gets a 3-4 OLB. Matthews had a great pro day. Connor Barwin and Rey Maualuga are also options here.
18. Chicago: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland. Big, fast threat to open up the passing game.
19. Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas. Bucs get a strong armed QB whom they covet.
20. New Orleans: Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, Ohio St. Saints trade back and still get their version of Thunder to go with Reggie Bush's Lightning.
21. Philadelphia: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St. They wanted Beanie Wells, but settle for a versatile TE. Eben Britton is also an option here.
22. Minnesota: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona. Vikes get a nice RT to go opposite Bryant McKenzie.
** Trade: New England trades #23 and 58 to the NY Giants for #29 and 45.
23. NY Giants: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina. With 3 WRs already gone and hearing that Parcells loves Nicks, the Giants trade up for the big WR they need to replace Plaxico Burress.
24. Atlanta: Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi. Atlanta gets a penetrating DT for their defense.
25. Miami: Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut. With Nicks gone, Miami goes for a fluid, athletic CB. Connor Barwin is an option here.
26. Baltimore: Rey Maualuga, ILB. Baltimore gets a physical ILB to replace Bart Scott and learn under Ray Lewis. Vontae Davis will also get serious consideration here.
27. Indianapolis: Percy Harvin, WR, Florida. Imagine what Peyton Manning can do with Harvin in addition to his other weapons, at both WR and out of the backfield. Nicks is also an option.
28. Philadelphia: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee. Philly loves disruptive defensive lineman, and Ayers will be a good one.
29. New England: Connor Barwin, OLB, Cincinnati. The Pats don't wait until #34 to get their 3-4 OLB. William Beatty is also a possibility.
30. Tennessee: Jarron Gilbert, DT, San Jose St. Titans get a talented big man in the middle who may someday fill the gap left by Haynesworth.
31. Arizona: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia. The Cardinals get their choice to replace the Edge. Moreno slips a bit because of his 40 time, and is a steal here - another Emmit Smith.
32. Pittsburgh: Alex Mack, OG/C, California. Steelers get a powerful, smart anchor for it's biggest area of need.
Round 2:
33. Detroit: James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio St. With QB and OT filled, Detroit goes defense. Laurinaitis will fit in nicely with Julian Peterson and Ernie Sims. Vontae Davis could be the pick here as well.
34. New England: William Beatty, OT, Connecticut. Pats get a potential franchise OT to protect Brady.
35. St. Louis: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois. Detroit takes Laurinaitis, so St. Louis takes Davis. If Detroit takes Davis, St. Louis takes Laurinaitis. Win-win.
36. Denver: Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia. Broncs add a nice 3-4 OLB complement to Jarvis Moss. Larry English and Alphonso Smith are also options here.
** Trade: Seattle trades #37 to New England for #47 and #89.
37. New England: Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan. Pats trade up get their version of Troy Polamalu.
38. Cincinnati: Max Unger, OG/C, Oregon. Bengals get a versatile interior lineman to block for Beanie Wells and Carson Palmer. Eric Wood from nearby Louisville is also an option.
39. Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina. Jags get their OT here.
40. Oakland: Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech. Al Davis gets a physical freak on the DL.
41. Green Bay: Ron Brace, DT, Boston College. Green Bay misses on Raji but gets his teammate to be their 3-4 DT anchor.
** Trade: Buffalo trades #42 to Indianapolis for #61, 92 and 127.
42. Indianapolis: Evander "Ziggy" Hood, DT, Missouri. As in 2007, Indy moves up to cover a need when a player they covet is still available.
43. San Francisco: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest. 9ers wanted Brace but settle for a ball-hawking CB. Kenny Britt and Philip Loadholt are options here.
44. Miami: Larry English, DE/OLB. Phins jump at getting Butler and English with their first 2 picks. This is for Bakes781.
** Trade: New England trades #45 and a conditional 2010 pick to New Orleans for the Saints 2010 1st round pick. Donald Brown and Eric Wood are still on the board, but Pats can't pass up chance to get a 2010 1st rounder.
45. New Orleans: William Moore, S, Missouri. Saints trade up and get their pick of the remaining 3 top safeties.
46. Houston: Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah. Another safety fills a big need.
47. Seattle: Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut. The Hawks trade back but still get their replacement for Shawn Alexander to go with their new QB.
48. Denver: Patrick Chung, S, Oregon. Chung will make a nice replacement for John Lynch, to go with Brian Dawkins.
49. Chicago: Philip Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma. Big road-grader at RT to complement Chris Williams. DJ Moore could also be an option here.
50. NY Jets: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers. Jets get a big WR to complement their strong-armed QB.
51. Dallas: Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma. Wide-body OG to eventually replace Larry Allen.
52. Green Bay: Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa. Packers get a big, bruising runner.
53. Philadelphia: LeSean McCoy, RB, Pittsburgh. "Shady" falls a bit, and will share time with Westbrook.
54. Minnesota: DJ Moore, CB, Vanderbilt. Moore drops a bit, but is good value here. If Chicago goes with Moore, then the Vikings take Loadholt here to complement Bryant McKenzie.
** Trade: Atlanta trades #55 and #125 to Arizona for #63 and #95. With several talented TE's still available, Atlanta trades back.
55. Arizona: Eric Wood, C, Louisville. Arizona fills their other big need on offense with a smart 4 year starter at center. They don't think he'll last to 63, and they're right.
56. Miami: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio St. Miami gets CB, OLB and WR with their first 3 picks. Perfect draft.
57. Baltimore: Coye Francies, CB, San Jose St. The Ravens love big CBs.
58. NY Giants: James Casey, TE, Rice. Giants get a smart, versatile athletic player who can help make up for the loss of Jeremy Shockey.
59. Carolina: Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn. Carolina gets an athletic, penetrating DT.
60. NY Giants: Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio St. LB is the Giant's biggest need left.
61. Buffalo: Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina. Buffalo trades down and still gets a the most athletic TE in the draft.
62. Tennessee: Pat White, QB/WR, West Virginia. Tennessee takes the versatile White as a WR, though they're happy to look at him as a QB option too.
63. Atlanta: Shawn Nelson , TE, Southern Mississippi. Atlanta trades back and still gets an athletic TE for Ryan.
64. Pittsburgh: Fili Moala, DE/DT, USC. Big athletic 3-4 DE.
Musical QBs:
- Cleveland gets Cutler and still manages to get 1st round picks.
- Denver subtracts Cutler but gets Quinn, Raji, Sintim and Chung.
- Jets get Anderson who fits their mold, and a 1st round caliber WR in Britt.
- Detroit gets Stafford, Oher and Laurinaitis.
- Seattle gets Sanchez for their WCO.
- Tampa Bay gets Freeman.
Thoughts?