Welcome to PatsFans.com

AFC East: Best Five Players Per Team

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Amnorix, Jun 3, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Amnorix

    Amnorix Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    491
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    OTAs and stuff are very exciting to be sure, but we're definitely in the midst of the boringest time of the offseason, so I figured I'd shamelessly rip off this concept from another football board and bring it over here.

    In no particular order

    Patriots

    Tom Brady
    John Hannah
    Andre Tippett
    Mike Haynes
    Stanley Morgan

    **note, I could have, but didn't, include someone like a Curtis Martin or Randy Moss, but my feeling is that they aren't primarily identified with the Patriots, given that they spent the majority of their careers elsewhere.


    Dolphins

    Dan Marino
    Jason Taylor
    Larry Csonka
    Dwight Stephenson
    Larry Little


    Bills

    Bruce Smith
    Jim Kelly
    Thurman Thomas
    OJ Simpson (may he rot in hell)
    James Lofton


    Jets


    Joe Namath
    Don Maynard
    Mark Gastineau
    Curtis Martin
    Kevin Mawae
  2. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    20,451
    Likes Received:
    96
    Ratings:
    +226 / 17 / -2

    Haynes played on half of his career for the patriots. I agree with the first four, but Stanlry was no one of the best patriots of all time. He isn't even the best receiver. I'd have Moss, Coates and Fryar over him.

  3. HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

    HEY BRO! WHAT UP? Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2006
    Messages:
    4,370
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    Past players are kind of irrelevant right now. It would be better to talk about the best players currently on the team.
  4. Amnorix

    Amnorix Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    491
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0


    I know Haynes only played half his career here, but to me, that's enough if he otherwise makes the grade. Moss and Martin aren't even close to 1/2 their career.

    But still, there's no rules to this, so whatever works for you.

    IMHO Fryer enjoyed his best years elsewhere. He had 9 years -- a little over half his career -- in New England -- with ONE 1,000 yard season. And that was JUST barely at 1,014 yards. Other than that, he had ONE 800+ yard season, and two 700+ yard seasons. After he left us, he had four thousand yard seasons elsewhere.

    Morgan had 3 1,000 yard seasons, a just miss 991 yard season, two 800 yard and two 700 yard seasons.

    In terms of TDs, Fryar had 7, 6, 5 and 5 as his best seasons as a Patriot.

    Morgan had 12, 10, 6, 6, 5, 5, 5, 5, though obviously over more years.

    Who was the better Patriot? I don't really think it's that close.

    Moss -- that's a separate argument. Obviously, no Patriot comes close to matching his production over the short time he's been here.
  5. Amnorix

    Amnorix Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    491
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0


    Sure, because talking sports history is boring.... :confused:

    A "top 5" players isn't really "relevant" to anything even if it's current players, since teams have 53 and need to work as a team, but obviously that's a separate and interesting discussion as well.
  6. PATRIOTSFANINPA

    PATRIOTSFANINPA Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2006
    Messages:
    15,719
    Likes Received:
    12
    Ratings:
    +12 / 0 / -0

    #12 Jersey

    Let me guess .... You were not even born when those guys were playing right? (excluding TB)

    Some of us older guys who were Pats fans even way back then like to read a little of the old days during these times .. Young man ;)
  7. Amnorix

    Amnorix Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    491
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0


    That too.

    I still remember our offensive left tackle -- Holloway -- goign to a couple pro bowls and then being "stolen" in free agency by the Raiders. And then it became sort of apparent that a big part of his success was playing next to some guy named John Hannah. :D
  8. HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

    HEY BRO! WHAT UP? Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2006
    Messages:
    4,370
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    Patriots

    Tom Brady
    John Hannah
    Andre Tippett
    Mike Haynes
    Stanley Morgan


    Dolphins

    Dan Marino
    Jason Taylor

    Larry Csonka
    Dwight Stephenson
    Larry Little


    Bills

    Bruce Smith
    Jim Kelly
    Thurman Thomas

    OJ Simpson (may he rot in hell)
    James Lofton


    Jets


    Joe Namath
    Don Maynard
    Mark Gastineau
    Curtis Martin
    Kevin Mawae
    [/QUOTE]

    The players highlighted in bold are the ones I grew up watching. I just don't see the point of talking about players of the past.
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2009
  9. patchick

    patchick Moderatrix Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    11,512
    Likes Received:
    270
    Ratings:
    +603 / 6 / -0

    Guess we should delete all the threads on Rodney's retirement then, eh? :rolleyes:
  10. tombonneau

    tombonneau Rookie

    Joined:
    May 27, 2005
    Messages:
    3,196
    Likes Received:
    4
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    I kind of agree. I'm old enough to remember all these guys, but it's just difficult to compare players across generations because players so much bigger & faster now. I mean, the Pats best OL of all time (and of of the best ever) John Hannah would probably play TE today.
  11. patchick

    patchick Moderatrix Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    11,512
    Likes Received:
    270
    Ratings:
    +603 / 6 / -0

    I'd think it far more likely that a 2009 Hannah would carry 30-40 lbs more on his his 6'3" frame thanks to modern training techniques, and continue to dominate.
  12. farn

    farn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    1,715
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    Well, let's change it up then :

    Brady - Moss - Welker - Mayo - and who ?

    Evans - Owens - Whittner...

    Add away !
  13. scout

    scout Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    7,702
    Likes Received:
    26
    Ratings:
    +37 / 0 / -2

    #15 Jersey

    I would have to put Fryer down as one of the biggest disappointments in Patriot history, considering he was drafted #1. How anyone could include him in the same sentence as Morgan is shocking.
    Speaking of disappointments, I might switch Miami's Taylor with former Patriot LB Nick Buoniconti.
  14. AndyJohnson

    AndyJohnson PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    22,216
    Likes Received:
    92
    Ratings:
    +320 / 15 / -10

    I couldnt possibly disagree more. Do you remember Stanley Morgan? If you are comparing stats for a WR in the 70s to today, you might as well say Morgan didnt get enough sacks, because it is an entirely different game.
    Morgan was outstanding, and was here a very long time. Fryar didn't do half of what Morgan did, and Coates compiled a lot of catches as a safety value, hardly close to the production of Morgan. Moss has been a Patriot 2 years.
  15. West Philly Patriot

    West Philly Patriot Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2009
    Messages:
    2,802
    Likes Received:
    29
    Ratings:
    +61 / 3 / -3

    #12 Jersey

    Brady, moss, welker, mayo and mankins/Seymour

    Bills- Owens, lynch, maybin, whit-whatever the suffix is and josh reed

    Jets- jones, revis, that tackle they got from the steelers, and who cares the jets suck ass

    Dolphins- long, pennington, porter, Taylor and ronnie brown
  16. jmt57

    jmt57 Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2005
    Messages:
    13,090
    Likes Received:
    70
    Ratings:
    +172 / 0 / -0

    Alright, I'll give it a shot.

    Pats: Tom Brady, John Hannah, Andre Tippett, Stanley Morgan, Jim Nance
    Jets: Joe Namath, Don Maynard, Winston Hill, Larry Grantham, Marvin Powell
    Bills: Jim Kelley, Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith, George Saimes, Butch Byrd
    Dolphins: Dan Marino, Larry Csonka, Jason Taylor, Dwight Stephenson, Larry Little
  17. Patriot Missile

    Patriot Missile Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2005
    Messages:
    5,404
    Likes Received:
    33
    Ratings:
    +63 / 4 / -1

    #75 Jersey

  18. ausbacker

    ausbacker Brady > Manning. PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2008
    Messages:
    13,205
    Likes Received:
    117
    Ratings:
    +279 / 4 / -2

    #51 Jersey

    Bit surprised Gino Cappelletti hasn't received a mention.
  19. farn

    farn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2009
    Messages:
    1,715
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    Good calls here... I'd prob give Mankins the nod over Seymour. For the Bills, I think you got the main players. I think the Jets would include 2 or 3 guys from their O-line along with Jones and Revis. The Dolphins... I'm not convinced Porter & Taylor would be ahead of a few others... but even though they had a solid season, they're certainly more of a "team" than a group of "names" or "superstars". I'd agree with Pennington, Long, Brown though...
  20. Mack Herron

    Mack Herron Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,985
    Likes Received:
    30
    Ratings:
    +76 / 0 / -2

    #24 Jersey

    I like Klecko over Gastineau.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>