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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.For about 52 minutes the defense allowed 1 TD drive, 1 FG drive, a TD on a 10 yard field and nothing else.counterpoint: chad henne
Do we really care what kind of stats the other team puts up while hopelessly trying to get back in the game?
Well thats the only guy they have faced, and 2-14 is outstanding, against anyone.I wasn't referring to stats. I'm simply pointing out that they did it against Chad Henne.
I'm firmly in the "the defense played very well, likely better than the yards allowed makes them look" camp, like it sounds you are as well.
I'm just looking forward to seeing them do it against someone with a reputation for playing well under pressure (i.e. anyone other than Chad ******* Henne).
I agree; over the years I have come to wonder if some people comment about a game based on stats and not what they actually saw (or if they even watched).For about 52 minutes the defense allowed 1 TD drive, 1 FG drive, a TD on a 10 yard field and nothing else.
The fact that when the game was out of hand and we played soft zone to make them take time off the clock in order to move the ball, and that led to a bunch of yards and 1 TD does not IMO overcome the fact that until the game was out of hand, the D played well.
Do we really care what kind of stats the other team puts up while hopelessly trying to get back in the game?
If they weren't in a desperation mode where they went for it 5 times on 4th down, many of those yards would not have happened, and guess what, it wouldn't matter either way.
I agree; over the years I have come to wonder if some people comment about a game based on stats and not what they actually saw (or if they even watched).
In the first drive Miami had six first downs and then the TD; after that:
- 3 and out, punt
- 1 first down, punt
- 3 and out, punt
- 1 first down, punt
- kneel down, end of half
- 2 plays, TD; drive started on Pats' 9-yard line after pick
- 4 first downs, FG
- 3 and out, punt
- 3 and out, punt
At this point the Pats are up by 14 with 8 1/2 minutes to play:
- 3 first downs; Miami turns the ball over on downs
Now it's 38-17 with 5 1/2 minutes to play:
- 4 first downs; TD
One last possession, Miami down by 14 with 2:32 to go:
- 4 first downs; clock expires
In my opinion the final stats - specifically the yardage, first downs, number of plays and time of possession - are a bit deceiving regarding the Pats defense vs the Miami offense. Yes, the final outcome still could have gone either way well into the fourth quarter, but the Pats defense did much better than what the game stats show.
I wasn't referring to stats. I'm simply pointing out that they did it against Chad Henne.
I'm firmly in the "the defense played very well, likely better than the yards allowed makes them look" camp, like it sounds you are as well.
I'm just looking forward to seeing them do it against someone with a reputation for playing well under pressure (i.e. anyone other than Chad ******* Henne).
That was very arguable before Henne's apparent improvement.I think it's a little early to just **** on Henne. He had a good pre-season, and has a competent OC now. It's possible that he has both improved and is in a better system for his talents.
I saw a QB in charge of his offense last night and who played pretty well despite taking some big hits. I would take 2-14 against any QB in the NFL.
I'm serious when I say that Sanchez is the worst starting QB in the division right now.
2-14 conversions
At this point the Pats are up by 14 with 8 1/2 minutes to play:
- 3 first downs; Miami turns the ball over on downs
Now it's 38-17 with 5 1/2 minutes to play:
- 4 first downs; TD
One last possession, Miami down by 14 with 2:32 to go:
- 4 first downs; clock expires
In my opinion the final stats - specifically the yardage, first downs, number of plays and time of possession - are a bit deceiving regarding the Pats defense vs the Miami offense. Yes, the final outcome still could have gone either way well into the fourth quarter, but the Pats defense did much better than what the game stats show.
I think it's a little early to just **** on Henne. He had a good pre-season, and has a competent OC now. It's possible that he has both improved and is in a better system for his talents.
Well, actually I think we were in nickel for most of the game. The corners combined to play 226 snaps in 76 plays.Yeah. And the Pats now are working from a true 4-3 base defense.