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We're actually trading Big Vince for Liono from the Thundercats and a bag of weed.
Yes, but can he rush the passer??
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Yes, but can he rush the passer??
With the mad scramble that is FA we have signed alot of vet DL. Now most have come from a 43 system and the cutting of Ty Warren makes me think that a singular precious(expensive)NT may be a luxury not needed if we are revamping our DL. BB often seems to focus on 1 set of players each season for a major overhaul. DBs/WRs/RBs, etc. With all the additions at DL, returning only 1 "starter", and despite Vince's skill level maybe he is being evaluated against his contract. This may not be a popular thread cuz everyone wants to think about both Vince and Al stuffing the run, but didnt we think the same way about Lawyer Milloy when Rodney was signed? Yes Vince sure can play DT but then is he worth his contract at that position? Maybe they are angling for him to restructure?? Opinions?
With the mad scramble that is FA we have signed alot of vet DL. Now most have come from a 43 system and the cutting of Ty Warren makes me think that a singular precious(expensive)NT may be a luxury not needed if we are revamping our DL. BB often seems to focus on 1 set of players each season for a major overhaul. DBs/WRs/RBs, etc. With all the additions at DL, returning only 1 "starter", and despite Vince's skill level maybe he is being evaluated against his contract. This may not be a popular thread cuz everyone wants to think about both Vince and Al stuffing the run, but didnt we think the same way about Lawyer Milloy when Rodney was signed? Yes Vince sure can play DT but then is he worth his contract at that position? Maybe they are angling for him to restructure?? Opinions?
Or Bill could just be throwing a handful of noodles at a wall to see what sticks?
Milloy was no longer performing to the level BB wanted from his Safety, Harrison made his release something we could do. Wilfork continues to dominate and do everything BB wants and more. What you are seeing is the Pats FO building around Wilfork, not finding ways to get rid of 'em. Not a single guy on the DL could do what Vince does for this D, not a single one.
This thread won't be popular because what you are saying is ridiculous, not because you're bringing up a subject that's hard to swallow.
With the mad scramble that is FA we have signed alot of vet DL. Now most have come from a 43 system and the cutting of Ty Warren makes me think that a singular precious(expensive)NT may be a luxury not needed if we are revamping our DL. BB often seems to focus on 1 set of players each season for a major overhaul. DBs/WRs/RBs, etc. With all the additions at DL, returning only 1 "starter", and despite Vince's skill level maybe he is being evaluated against his contract. This may not be a popular thread cuz everyone wants to think about both Vince and Al stuffing the run, but didnt we think the same way about Lawyer Milloy when Rodney was signed? Yes Vince sure can play DT but then is he worth his contract at that position? Maybe they are angling for him to restructure?? Opinions?
Was cutting Milloy "ridiculous"? How about trading Seymour? There are difficult decisions made by management every year and to think what I said is "ridiculous" simply isnt realistic. I'm sure every player is being evaluated, some more than others. I know as well as anyone that Vince is versitile, that was never in question. With all the movement along the line a thread like this is a natural progression. Geez
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With the mad scramble that is FA we have signed alot of vet DL. Now most have come from a 43 system and the cutting of Ty Warren makes me think that a singular precious(expensive)NT may be a luxury not needed if we are revamping our DL. BB often seems to focus on 1 set of players each season for a major overhaul. DBs/WRs/RBs, etc. With all the additions at DL, returning only 1 "starter", and despite Vince's skill level maybe he is being evaluated against his contract. This may not be a popular thread cuz everyone wants to think about both Vince and Al stuffing the run, but didnt we think the same way about Lawyer Milloy when Rodney was signed? Yes Vince sure can play DT but then is he worth his contract at that position? Maybe they are angling for him to restructure?? Opinions?
We need a "Get rid of Mayo" thread to go with all the other threads suggesting they get rid of their best players.
Trading Seymour had nothing to do with his play...but more to do with salary , salary cap,and which position BB considered more important....Only could afford one...Vince's NT position won out...end of discussion.....
With the mad scramble that is FA we have signed alot of vet DL. Now most have come from a 43 system and the cutting of Ty Warren makes me think that a singular precious(expensive)NT may be a luxury not needed if we are revamping our DL. BB often seems to focus on 1 set of players each season for a major overhaul. DBs/WRs/RBs, etc. With all the additions at DL, returning only 1 "starter", and despite Vince's skill level maybe he is being evaluated against his contract. This may not be a popular thread cuz everyone wants to think about both Vince and Al stuffing the run, but didnt we think the same way about Lawyer Milloy when Rodney was signed? Yes Vince sure can play DT but then is he worth his contract at that position? Maybe they are angling for him to restructure?? Opinions?
WRONG.
Trading Seymour ~ instead of MOSS ~ was an horrible, glaring MISTAKE.
13 months later, Coach Bill realized that...but it was too late to get Seymour back.
We're actually trading Big Vince for Liono from the Thundercats and a bag of weed.
Epic fail.
Up there with the trade Welker thread and the old "Keep Cassell, trade Brady" thread from 2008
Dumpster material, and let's hope trash day comes soon, because the smell is so bad.
These months away from football has really messed people up with their logical thinking.
I can't wait for the "Let's trade Brady and steal Sanchez" thread. ...
WRONG.
Trading Seymour ~ instead of MOSS ~ was an horrible, glaring MISTAKE.
13 months later, Coach Bill realized that...but it was too late to get Seymour back.
Oh yes it is ridiculous.Was cutting Milloy "ridiculous"? How about trading Seymour? There are difficult decisions made by management every year and to think what I said is "ridiculous" simply isnt realistic. I'm sure every player is being evaluated, some more than others. I know as well as anyone that Vince is versitile, that was never in question. With all the movement along the line a thread like this is a natural progression. Geez
Trading Seymour would have been the wrong thing to do if he had reasonable contract demands.WRONG.
Trading Seymour ~ instead of MOSS ~ was an horrible, glaring MISTAKE.
13 months later, Coach Bill realized that...but it was too late to get Seymour back.
WRONG.
Trading Seymour ~ instead of MOSS ~ was an horrible, glaring MISTAKE.
13 months later, Coach Bill realized that...but it was too late to get Seymour back.
Sorry, OTG. Trading Seymour was the right thing to do... You seem to be under some misguided idea that Seymour wasn't going to be an issue. He was. He would have walked for nothing but a 3rd round pick and could have walked to the Jets. By trading Seymour to the Raiders, BB sent him to a dysfunctional team and ended up with a mid range 1st round pick. Which is better than the end of the 3rd round compensatory pick they'd have ended up with if Seymour walked.
Couldn't agree more. They were paying Moss what 9 million a year. They would have been able to sign Seymour for that.
(no need to point out what Seymour signed with Oakland for, if the Pats signed him, Crazy Al wouldn't have been able throw his crazy money at him)
Trading Seymour would have been the wrong thing to do if he had reasonable contract demands.
It wasn't a choice between Seymour and Moss.