Rookie Watch: Malcom Brown, Jordan Richards, Geneo Grissom, Trey Flowers

I voted Brown but this is class overall I am very excited about. I have made that very clear I think.

The Pats have done at least well on every draft since 2010. 2011 was meh but the others were very good.

VrabelJr said:

Brown has been our best or 2nd best DT this season. His last 3 or 4 games have seen him grown a ton. I would only put Alan Branch ahead of him so far and not by much.

Hicks and Easley have a chance to leapfrog Brown and Branch as they develop more and get used to our system. Brown is really the only 3-down DT we have right now unless Easley gets better on running downs.

Once Chris Jones comes back Siliga could potentially be the odd man out. Chris Jones and Easley are our only "true" 3-tech DTs and Hicks, Brown and Branch all have overlapping abilities as space eater, run controlling DTs.

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I've kinda-sorta been paying attention to Brown lately as hes been playing more but it seems to me he is MUCH better at gap responsibility.

Brown has ascended steadily and is heads and shoulders above the others. Flowers was most impressive pre-season and then became injured. I think this is the first week he was taken off the injury report, so it will be interesting to see if he can work into the line-up . With Sheard out, he could see snaps in a DE rotation if active.

BobDigital said:

I voted Brown but this is class overall I am very excited about. I have made that very clear I think.

The Pats have done at least well on every draft since 2010. 2011 was meh but the others were very good.

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2009 with Vollmer, Chung, and Edelman is looking pretty damn good these days too. That's 2 Pro-Bowl caliber players and a solid starter. Can't ask for much more than that.

One of the best rookie classes was 2003, and they made an impact on the 2003 and 2004 SBs playing on rookie contracts...

1 Ty Warren, DL, Texas A&M
2 Eugene Wilson, FS, Illinois
2 Bethel Johnson, WR, Texas A&M
4 Dan Klecko, DL, Temple
4 Asante Samuel, CB, Central Florida
5 Dan Koppen, C, Boston College
6 Kliff Kingsbury, QB, Texas Tech
7 Spencer Nead, TE, Brigham Young
7 Tully Banta-Cain, OLB, California
7 Ethan Kelley, DL, Baylor

Not a lot to complain about there, headlined by Warren, Wilson, Asante and Koppen, who were all impactful starters right out of the gate.

woolster22 said:

Good luck earning your AFC South Participant Banner,
The Deflator

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Every time I see a reference to that banner- in words or picture -it conjures something. And this one, I just have to share! So, they put up this "AFC Finalist" banner and what was the score of that game; the one that got them their banner? And isn't that a game they cannot even talk about...too embarrassing? So, they pin up a banner to remind them of that game. OK, I'm calling them out. That's insanity!

Does IND have a banner committee that sits around trying to figure reasons for putting up their next banner? Perhaps, they should just fast-forward and fill the place with banners? And if anyone challenges them on this, just call them "haters." Isn't that how the insane work, today?

rookBoston said:

One of the best rookie classes was 2003, and they made an impact on the 2003 and 2004 SBs playing on rookie contracts...

1 Ty Warren, DL, Texas A&M
2 Eugene Wilson, FS, Illinois
2 Bethel Johnson, WR, Texas A&M
4 Dan Klecko, DL, Temple
4 Asante Samuel, CB, Central Florida
5 Dan Koppen, C, Boston College
6 Kliff Kingsbury, QB, Texas Tech
7 Spencer Nead, TE, Brigham Young
7 Tully Banta-Cain, OLB, California
7 Ethan Kelley, DL, Baylor

Not a lot to complain about there, headlined by Warren, Wilson, Asante and Koppen, who were all impactful starters right out of the gate.

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Plus a D1 coach.

rookBoston said:

One of the best rookie classes was 2003, and they made an impact on the 2003 and 2004 SBs playing on rookie contracts...

1 Ty Warren, DL, Texas A&M
2 Eugene Wilson, FS, Illinois
2 Bethel Johnson, WR, Texas A&M
4 Dan Klecko, DL, Temple
4 Asante Samuel, CB, Central Florida
5 Dan Koppen, C, Boston College
6 Kliff Kingsbury, QB, Texas Tech
7 Spencer Nead, TE, Brigham Young
7 Tully Banta-Cain, OLB, California
7 Ethan Kelley, DL, Baylor

Not a lot to complain about there, headlined by Warren, Wilson, Asante and Koppen, who were all impactful starters right out of the gate.

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thats not what this thread is about. please stay on topic

cscirpoli said:

Richards has had one or two good plays. I forget which game, but there was an opposing receiver that made a catch near the sidelines over Richards. Richards caught him in the air and carried him out of bounds, probably a good yard and a half away from the out of bounds line, before he could get his feet down. Was a smart, heads up play on his part.

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Allen Robinson, jags best wide receiver.

Wheelman said:

Allen Robinson, jags best wide receiver.

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I missed that play, anyone got a GIF?

robertweathers said:

I really have no idea why he is still on this team.

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because hes a second rnd pick?

reflexblue said:

because hes a second rnd pick?

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Yea. BB has said some guys are late-bloomers. Maybe hes holding out hope for Wilson.

He is a good STer.

Plus I think BB likes him as Chung's legit backup.

He was seeing 10-15 snaps a game as the 2nd big nickel at the end of last year and in the playoffs.

I think Richards makes him obsolete in 2016 regardless. He's already better than Wilson IMO.

Mack Herron said:

Brown has ascended steadily and is heads and shoulders above the others. Flowers was most impressive pre-season and then became injured. I think this is the first week he was taken off the injury report, so it will be interesting to see if he can work into the line-up . With Sheard out, he could see snaps in a DE rotation if active.

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Agreed.

Flowers being banged up has been frustrating since he looked really good in PS.

I do expect to see him this weekend.

Oswlek said:

I missed that play, anyone got a GIF?

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PP_Rich_Hill : Jordan Richards fireman carries Allen Robinson out of bounds for the incompletion. Insane control by ARob. http://t.co/n192UbBYOu | Twicsy - Twitter Picture Discovery

MrNathanDrake said:

The only bum safety we have drafted is Tavon Wilson.

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Hardly a bum.. but even I as a Belichick homer can admit (and always have) that it seems like he was in fact a reach (meaning it seems like he would have been there a few rounds later).

robertweathers said:

I really have no idea why he is still on this team.

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Yeah I generally play with my phone during special teams plays too.

cscirpoli said:

PP_Rich_Hill : Jordan Richards fireman carries Allen Robinson out of bounds for the incompletion. Insane control by ARob. http://t.co/n192UbBYOu | Twicsy - Twitter Picture Discovery

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Damn close play. Great instincts by Richards.

cscirpoli said:

PP_Rich_Hill : Jordan Richards fireman carries Allen Robinson out of bounds for the incompletion. Insane control by ARob. http://t.co/n192UbBYOu | Twicsy - Twitter Picture Discovery

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Let's not use the word "carry" here, because that would be a foul. How about "gently assisted him out of bounds."

Does anyone think Richards has a strange build? Or does he just wear his uniform weird? Dude looks like he has gorilla arms.

I'm 5'11" or so but my wingspan is 6'4" so I'm allowed to use the term 'gorilla arms' or 'knuckle dragger' but those are OUR terms. You normies aren't allowed to use them.

fnord, evolutionary throwback genes occasionally express themselves such as "gorilla arms" along with really small gorilla ****s