After 5 weeks: what's our impression of the Jets

TommyBrady12 said:

i think they will miss jenkins.

but i do agree with you that you can move the ball on the jets D. The vikings did it, and i think the pats can too.

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A desperate team, the Vikings had 2 weeks to prepare for the Monday night game, their offense did NOTHING for 3 quarters, they had 1 first down until the end of the 3rd quarter, weather was rough, Revis was rusty and needs a couple of weeks, and Favre got hot, it isn't like Minnesota doesn't have talent, they are one of the better teams in the league.

Jets held Peterson to under 100 yds and he owns the league.

Jets D will only get better as Pace and Revis get healthy. Cromartie has returned to pro bowl form under Rex, the addition of Pryce will pay dividends as the year progresses.

As for our LG sucking, he's gotten better every week, pass protection has been outstanding, Sanchez was virtually untouched this past Monday night against a strong pass rushing team, and an excellent front 7, and the Jets already have the best running game in the league, they don't miss Faneca or Jones at all, they upgraded at both places with a younger more able Slauson at LG, and a resurgent LT. Jets just put up 150 yds against one of the best rushing defenses in the league, they hadn't allowed a 100 + yds rushing in a couple of years, if I remember reading the statistic correctly.

As Holmes is worked into the offense, the offensive potential is unlimited, they have too many weapons.

Sanchez doesn't need to be Tom Brady or Manning, not this year, he's still growing, and is much improved this year already, that and he has really taken on more of a leadership role.

I thought the Pats were crazy for trading Moss, the Pats will have to completely change the identity of their offense, I don't doubt a Belichick lead team with a Tom Brady, but that task got a whole lot harder when the Pats were already a one dimensional team without a strong running game. Their defense is young and has a lot of holes.

It's early, but Jets look strong, hoping for a fun ride.

Simply put, they're the team to beat in the AFCE.


Hurts to say it, but you gotta be honest.

ALP said:

the defense is OK, not like last year, but definetely up there

their pass D CAN and WILL be torched once they play a real QB (i dont count the pats game here)

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I have to laugh, why don't you count the Pats? Doesn't fit your spin? LOL, c'mon dude, that is asinine.

Miami put up big numbers, because they were playing from behind all night, and the Jets were gassed in the Miami heat.

Vikings are a good passing team, especially with Moss, they did nothing for 3 quarters.

Revis is not yet 100%, neither is Pace, as they both get healthier, they will only improve.

They're for real.

Matw said:

They're for real.

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If our team was playing like the Jets; good game management by the QB, great running game, great defense, solid STs, this board would be going insane.

They beat an above average Dolphins team, a good Patriots team, an above average Vikings team, and destroyed the woeful Bills. Up to this point, they've played the best ball in the AFCE.

stinkypete said:

Looking for an honest opinion, not a reactionary homer thread.

Me, I'm surprised that they're 4-1, but they've played like an elite team. Color me shocked. The bottom line is, Sanchez has played like a borderline pro-bowler, the run game didn't miss a beat after replacing Jones/Washington with LT, the defense has been a top 10 unit even without Jenkins, Revis and Pace, and Ryan has proven to be a competent coach who is willing to admit to and learn from mistakes.

Just saying, the Jets look to be for real. I think the Patriots are for real too. I think the Jets, Pats, Ravens and Steelers are the 4 best teams in the NFL.

Is anyone else here willing to acknowledge the Jets are a very good team?

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I am very impressed with them. With the exception of the Sanchize (they
keep him under control a lot) that is a hell of a team. Even the Sanchize
has showed some real progress as well. I keep waiting for the inmates to
take over the asylum though. The warden is a nutcase (Rex) and it seems
that this group is a tripwire away from imploding. Otherwise it's not difficult
to see them going to the SB and winning it. The NFC seems to be a mess
this year.

JetFan19 said:

I have to laugh, why don't you count the Pats? Doesn't fit your spin? LOL, c'mon dude, that is asinine.

Miami put up big numbers, because they were playing from behind all night, and the Jets were gassed in the Miami heat.

Vikings are a good passing team, especially with Moss, they did nothing for 3 quarters.

Revis is not yet 100%, neither is Pace, as they both get healthier, they will only improve.

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The only fault I have in your post is that you are assuming that nobody important gets hurt from here on in. If that's the case, you are the man,
if not, things change.

At this point the Jets are one of the top 5 teams in the league

The Jets are Super Bowl contenders like about 1/2 the league

The Jets have made ALL of us eat crow by junking Thomas Jones for LT which looks to be a fantastic move.

Hate to say it but the AFCE is in the Jets control at this time

I hate the jets, their puke green colors, their azzhole fans and their whole organization...

With that being said, this team is a very good team and may go into the playoffs...

Sooner or later some team will figure out Sanchez and they will become exposed, but even if that happens they have a lot of weapons on both sides of the ball.

They're looking pretty damn good, better than I want them to look.

My impression of them is I hate them and they'll all burn for their crimes like all ememies against Patriotkind.

JetFan19 said:

A desperate team, the Vikings had 2 weeks to prepare for the Monday night game, their offense did NOTHING for 3 quarters, they had 1 first down until the end of the 3rd quarter, weather was rough, Revis was rusty and needs a couple of weeks, and Favre got hot, it isn't like Minnesota doesn't have talent, they are one of the better teams in the league.

Jets held Peterson to under 100 yds and he owns the league.

Jets D will only get better as Pace and Revis get healthy. Cromartie has returned to pro bowl form under Rex, the addition of Pryce will pay dividends as the year progresses.

As for our LG sucking, he's gotten better every week, pass protection has been outstanding, Sanchez was virtually untouched this past Monday night against a strong pass rushing team, and an excellent front 7, and the Jets already have the best running game in the league, they don't miss Faneca or Jones at all, they upgraded at both places with a younger more able Slauson at LG, and a resurgent LT. Jets just put up 150 yds against one of the best rushing defenses in the league, they hadn't allowed a 100 + yds rushing in a couple of years, if I remember reading the statistic correctly.

As Holmes is worked into the offense, the offensive potential is unlimited, they have too many weapons.

Sanchez doesn't need to be Tom Brady or Manning, not this year, he's still growing, and is much improved this year already, that and he has really taken on more of a leadership role.

I thought the Pats were crazy for trading Moss, the Pats will have to completely change the identity of their offense, I don't doubt a Belichick lead team with a Tom Brady, but that task got a whole lot harder when the Pats were already a one dimensional team without a strong running game. Their defense is young and has a lot of holes.

It's early, but Jets look strong, hoping for a fun ride.

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You can say what you want. The Jets r a good @ the moment. Still & all Sanchez will ultimately be their downfall. Can u honestly say u trust him in January? All of the teams with your so called elite defenses have sorry Qb's IMO. The only team with an elite defense with a QB that scares anyone is the Steelers.

They are what the preseason hype projected them to be - a good to very good team with better than expected production from LT and Mark Sanchez. IMO, they will be a tough out in the playoffs.

By no means may they have "the league's worst offense".

They're doing very well, and are in the top three of NFL teams with the Ravens and Steelers. I know that's what all the pundits say, but it rings true (to me anyway). The thing, remember - they were marked a Superbowl contenders at this point last year as well. They fizzled out towards the end of the season and BACKED into the playoffs. We'll see what happens, but my guess is that it will be a dogfight between the Pats and Jets for the AFCE title, and the loser will likely be a wild card.

They are a lot better than I expected.

Sanchez is better than I expected. He has far more confidence than he showed in the preseason. Although he still makes a lot of stupid decisions they haven't cost them.

LT definitely is a lot better than anyone expected. He isn't what he was in his hey day, but pretty good none the less. Wonder if he can keep it up all season, but right now he is one of the best free agent pick ups this offseason.

Jason Taylor is as good as I expected, not spectacular but solid. He is still better suited for a back up role, but hasn't been a liability and has made some good plays

Cromartie is what I expected - boom or bust. If he could go up against Moss or Lee Evans (who probably was shut down by Ryan Fitzpatrick as much as Cromartie) every week, he will be a Pro Bowler. Unfortunately for him, he still can get beaten like a rented mule by other WRs like Brandon Marshall (his only good game this year came against Cromartie and he would probably have had more catches if he didn't burnout in the Miami heat at the end of the game), Anquan Boldin, and Derrick Mason.

Before Monday night, I was going to say Braylon Edwards has finally started to show that he can actually catch the ball, but Monday might have changed my mind.

Dustin Keller is finally starting to live up to his promise. Before this year he has been far more hype than production. This year so far, he has almost been as go to as Antonio Gates and Dallas Clark.

I would still be worried about Rex's in game coaching. His handling of clock management in the game Monday night was probably on Herm Edwards level. Throwing on second down while protecting a lead with the opposing team out of time outs with about 2:30 left in the game?

Their o-line is still solid against the run, but still up and down against the pass. D'Brickishaw Ferguson is hard to figure out because he has played poorly against some bad competition at times and then totally owned Jared Allen Monday night. Damien Woody has struggled at time too.

Kyle Wilson has been a disapointment. I think Slauson has played better than expected, but still has issues. Shonn Greene hasn't been as good as the Jets wanted, but luckily for the Jets they don't need him to be with LT. The Jets haven't missed Kris Jenkins again this year thus far.

Overall, the Jets need to be considered an elite team over 5 weeks. That said it is early.

No doubt about it, they are a good team, a top 5 team at the moment. Their D is still the dominant strength, but this year's offense is greatly improved, though not to the point of being a great one.

The Vikings game though was such a Jekyll and Hyde game. The Minnesota offense was pitiful the first three quarters, and though some of that can be accounted to the Jets D, the fumbles, the lack of communication was all on the Vikes. Then when Favre got hot the D was exposed, largely because Revis is still hampered by that hamstring from the looks of it. Cromartie has proven to be good in man coverage (though he does get away with a lot of PI and holding), his weakness in tackling just hasnt been exposed yet. I agree that the D is still elite though not at the same sparkling level of last year.

The Jets offense is good and Sanchez has been better than I thought he would be. The game against the Pats was his coming out game, and he was sharp, confident and playing at a high level. Same against the Dolphins, but he was back to less than average against the Vikes. While he has no turnovers this season, he has come close to many and still lacks consistency in his judgments at the snap. He has however proved that he can play in the NFL. The biggest question mark is whether their offense can play from behind. The Vikes game also showed that they can be held to FG in the red zone. Edwards is nowhere as good as he thinks he is, and Holmes to me is the bigger threat.

They are still a home game down, but even if we can win against the Ravens this weekend they are still the team to beat in the AFCE.

I can't believe it's another Jet thread ... :confused3:

Next week we can recycle it ... "what's our impression after our impression of the jet's". :deadhorse:

I am fairly unimpressed with the Jets, their defense hasn't played up to expectations and their offense relies too much on LT catching passes near the LOS.

The Vikings gave the Jets that game, poor play by Favre for 85% of the game, the stupid int for a TD at the end...and how do you only give Peterson the ball 18 times? He was eating that defense up.

They're playing good football right now. If you want to know how I feel about them through five weeks, then I think almost everything we've said about them in the offseason has been one giant epic failure...

1. Sanchez HAS improved leaps and bounds over last season. He's throwing to the left, he's improved in his progressions, and he's learned to be patient.

2. Ferguson is playing just fine without Alan Faneca.

3. Tomlinson has seen new life in the Jets offense and has proven to be a valuable, and great, offseason move for them. He's surpassed the hopes of even Jets fans and has moved into the starting role.

4. They are run blocking just fine.

5. They proved that they can still play some good defense even without Darrelle Revis and Kris Jenkins.

6. After a very shaky start, Cromartie has proven to be a decent pick up.

7. Safety play does not appear to be an issue for them through five weeks.

Now, having said that, anything can happen throughout the season. Teams that peak early usually don't last until the very end. On top of that, the Jets really haven't played a tough schedule through the first five weeks. Sanchez could fall apart when facing good defenses, Tomlinson could (and probably will) break down as the year goes on and the weather gets colder, Cromarite and the rest of their pick ups could regress, and the safety play could be exploited by better quarterbacks. Just as easily, though, they could keep firing on all cylinders. I hope not, but it's easy to see. This is an extremely talented and battle tested team. With Sanchez playing well and their running game going, they can beat anybody.

They have looked really good so far but I project their problems will start from Sunday onwards.

I have said before and people need to watch this, Mark Sanchez when he was at USC had all his stinkers in the early afternoon and all his best performances in night games.

So far the Jets have only played once at 1pm and it was against the Bills where Sanchez went 14/24 for 161 yards and 2 tds. Now thats not a bad performance but its not great either given the team they were playing but they won the game easily so there is not much to be taken from it. The Jets have had 3 night games, one late afternoon game and one early afternoon game to this point.

Thing is that after their bye week they have four consecutive 1 pm games and thats where I expect them to falter if its gonna happen.

The other big question is whether LT can keep this up. At his age its hard to know if he can go the whole season but he has been back to his very best so far this year and thats scary.

The defense is not nearly as good as last season and the reason for that is teams using a lot more screen pass plays than they did last year. Thats how you counter a team that over commits to blitzing.

I think they will have big problems in Denver next week. They will come back fresh to face Green Bay in New York. Its not highly unlikely that they lose both those games and if that happens all those egos start to come to the fore blaming others for whats going wrong.

Rex Ryan has done a great job there and I really rate him as a head coach. I just think that if they do lose a few games that he will be really tested by those dodgy characters in the locker room.