Compensatory picks for 2009

[thesmee1]

I've tried to search for a topic related to this, found none, so here goes.
For all the players we've lost so far, what hypothetically will our picks be?

 

[PatsandTrojans55]

I could be wrong but I don't think it will be significant. Maybe a 5th at most for Stallworth. I believe Asante and Moss will cancel eachother because Randy was a Free Agent. Wait, I'm sorry is the rule that Free Agents that you actually loose to another team is what counts? I don't know for sure.

 

[Mr.Muhozi]

heres the ruling on the picks take from wikipedia

In addition to the 32 picks in each round, there are a total of up to 32 picks dispersed at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7. These picks, known as "compensatory picks," are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick.

If fewer than 32 such picks are awarded, the remaining picks are awarded in the order in which teams would pick in a hypothetical eighth round of the draft.

Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Moss doesn't offset Samuel, since it's net movement of FAs that matters (think about it for a second--if you don't sign any new players, and lose some of your FAs, have you had a net loss of talent or not?).

I don't think Stallworth counts, because the Pats declined to pick up his option. Colvin and K. Brady definitely don't count, because they were released before the start of FA.

In any case, though, these are my predictions of what the Pats might get for the players they lost:

Asante Samuel ($9M+) = 3rd round
Donte Stallworth, if he qualifies = borderline 3rd/4th
Randall Gay ($4M+) = high* 6th

*High among the round 6 comp picks, not high in round 6

 

[DaBruinz]

I could be wrong but I don't think it will be significant. Maybe a 5th at most for Stallworth. I believe Asante and Moss will cancel eachother because Randy was a Free Agent. Wait, I'm sorry is the rule that Free Agents that you actually loose to another team is what counts? I don't know for sure.

The way its figured out is that its players you lost (salary wise) with slight adjustments based on their performance against players you signed with slight adjustments based on their performance. Also, there is a minimum amount of salary that the player must make to be eligible.

Right now, the Pats have Lost a lot of HIGH MONEY players.

Gay - 4 million a year (5th round comp, could become a 4th with excellent play)
Samuel - 9.5 million a year (3rd round comp)
Stallworth - 5 million a year (4th round comp)
Eugene Wilson - ????


Signed:
Jason Webster (may or may not be eligible depending on contract)
Sam Aiken (probably won't be eligible for the equation as his contract value is too low)


Not included in the equation are re-signings. So that includes, Izzo, Washington, Paxton, Gaffney, Moss, and Bruschi.

AdamJT13 does a prediction on what the compensatory picks will be each year and he's usually correct.

http://www.sportsgamer.com/forums/n...g-2008-compensatory-draft-picks-adamjt13.html

EDIT: I am fairly certain that Stallworth will count because not picking up an option is not cutting a player. Its just changing the date that the contract terminates. But its something to ask AdamJT13

 

[dryheat44]

EDIT: I am fairly certain that Stallworth will count because not picking up an option is not cutting a player. Its just changing the date that the contract terminates. But its something to ask AdamJT13

Actually, it's not that either. An option is considered a contract proposal. It doesn't become a contract unless and until it's picked up. So yes, Stallworth counts, as he had a one-year deal, with a proposal that his agent made to the Pats for another contract, which was rejected.