Jerry Rice isnt as impressed with Moss' record

[NEPatriot]

"The only thing that bothers me a little bit is that I did it during the strike year," Rice says to the AP. "It was 12 games for me. If he had done it in 12 games, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. But I'm still going to congratulate him and do all of that.

"But I'm surprised the league is taking it upon themselves to give him 16 games to do it."

Nobody wants another to be better than us but the truth can hurt us.
1- The league does not give Randy 16 games to do it. It gives everybody 16 games to do it. Unfortunately, Randy is the MAN.
2- It's too bad that Rice only did it in 12 games. My only question is how many TDs is he going to receive if he is given 16 games to do it.? If Rice thinks he is the BEST, why doesn't he give us a number and we will see if Randy Moss matchs his number.

I think it is a fair question. My point is it doesn't matter how many games it takes you to set a new record and as long as you can do it in a season, it counts. Does it really matter if i break your record in the next 50 years.? Not really.

Pats is the GREATEST team in NFL history because of many SB rings and new individual records in the next comming weeks.

 

[Eason85]

I can see rice's point and how's he being a baby he said he'd still call him.

 

[FirstAndGoal]

Sour grapes on Rice's part because he had many seasons to beat that 22 touchdowns himself if it was so easy. The fact that he didn't should tell you that it's difficult. Yes, he did it in 12 games and that's great but it's also no guarantee that he would score more.

There seems to be a lot of sour grapes over records this year.
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[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

You can also make an argument that Moss is facing much tougher competition. Rice had arguably the greatest season ever and now Moss has a real shot at breaking his TD record. Dminishing Randy's feat just makes Rice sound like a crybaby.

In today's game, the talent is much better. Therefore, Rice should give props to Randy Moss. Everyone knows that Jerry Rice is the greatest reciever of all time.

 

[dhamz]

22 TDs in 12 games playing WR is ridiculous it is so good. Nothing anyone can say could diminsh it. Some of the lame attmepts to try to diminsh it in this thread are pretty funny - the best one being the fact that Rice never scored 22 in 16 game seasons. That actually enhances the greatness of the year he had - it was so great that even the best ever to play that position would never approach it again.

23/24/25 TDs in 16 games - also ridiculously good. As good as 22 in 12? No. Still a historic accomplishment? Absolutely.

 

[pheenix11]

Jerry Rice was always been a whiney *****.

 

[Patti37]

Why can't these athletes be gracious?

 

[NEPatriot]

I have also heard that pats is in the same line as Dolphin if it has 19-0 record. I don't think it that way because pats has 4+SB rings and numberious individual records.

Did dolphin QB have the same record as Tom.? No
Did dolphine coach have the same record as BB.? No
did it have 4 SB ring.? No
and the list can go on.

if you really want to compare who is the BEST, Pats is the one.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

From Reiss:

Former San Francisco 49ers receiver Jerry Rice, who holds the NFL record for touchdown catches in a season with 22, talks to the Associated Press about Randy Moss' pursuit of his record.

Rice tells reporter Howard Ulman that he will congratulate Moss (19 TDs) if he breaks the record.

"The only thing that bothers me a little bit is that I did it during the strike year," Rice says to the AP. "It was 12 games for me. If he had done it in 12 games, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. But I'm still going to congratulate him and do all of that.

"But I'm surprised the league is taking it upon themselves to give him 16 games to do it."

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I always hated Jerry Rice. I can't say what I really feel about the guy because I would probably get booted from the forum. It has to do with him swinging both ways. Anyway, the guy always struck me as a phony.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

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I always hated Jerry Rice. I can't say what I really feel about the guy because I would probably get booted from the forum. It has to do with him swinging both ways. Anyway, the guy always struck me as a phony.

He turn you down or what?

 

[frankiesfly]

From Reiss:

Former San Francisco 49ers receiver Jerry Rice, who holds the NFL record for touchdown catches in a season with 22, talks to the Associated Press about Randy Moss' pursuit of his record.

Rice tells reporter Howard Ulman that he will congratulate Moss (19 TDs) if he breaks the record.

"The only thing that bothers me a little bit is that I did it during the strike year," Rice says to the AP. "It was 12 games for me. If he had done it in 12 games, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. But I'm still going to congratulate him and do all of that.

"But I'm surprised the league is taking it upon themselves to give him 16 games to do it."

Well do you blame him? He's right. If he did it in less games obviously he's right. I would have a problem with it too. If I have a record in something and the other guy that is in persuit to break it is given 4 more games I would be saying the same thing.

 

[jbb9s]

Does anyone remember the last year Rice was in SF when TO made the big catch as he was nailed by two safties on the last play of the game?. As the teammates went over to help TO, Rice just showed frustration since he was not the target of the pass.

 

[jbb9s]

In baseball, all the playoff records have been broken because of the extra round. In college football, these silly overtime periods allow players to get 5,6,7 TDs because they go 4OT w/all possesions in the red zone. In the Olympics, they wear these fin suits that allow swimmers to break all the old time records because they are faster in the water. Everything has changed.

Do you know Randy Johnson's 20K game is not classified with Clemens (2) and Wood?? Know why, because RJs game went into extra innings. And even though RJ did it in 9, it still doesn't technically count as the most Ks in a 9 inning game.

My point is this: every record broken today is probably surpassing a predecessor which had a disadvantage. What are you going to do? Well, move on.....same to Rice.

 

[MossFan4Life]

From Reiss:

Former San Francisco 49ers receiver Jerry Rice, who holds the NFL record for touchdown catches in a season with 22, talks to the Associated Press about Randy Moss' pursuit of his record.

Rice tells reporter Howard Ulman that he will congratulate Moss (19 TDs) if he breaks the record.

"The only thing that bothers me a little bit is that I did it during the strike year," Rice says to the AP. "It was 12 games for me. If he had done it in 12 games, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. But I'm still going to congratulate him and do all of that.

"But I'm surprised the league is taking it upon themselves to give him 16 games to do it."

Yeah, but Jerry, you played many 16 games seasons and never scored more than 22! That's why the season record is 22 (soon to be about 25 after Moss breaks your record!). :singing:

 

[MossFan4Life]

It is what it is. Yes, it is a very impressive feat, but he did have 18(?) other seasons to break that record. Anyways, who's to say that he would have had more TD's if had played 4 more games?

He did play many 16 game seasons, but he never had more than 22, LOL!

 

[ddotderek]

how many td's has moss had taken away from him this season due to OPI? like 3? its kinda of moss's fault for not already having the record..he has dropped some endzone balls that he would have caught blind-folded in minnesota..4 that come to my mind..

1. Touchdown Vs the Steelers in the 4th Quarter, the ball was in his hands
2. Touchdown vs the Ravens..the ball was IN HIS HANDS
3. Touchdown vs the Bills..the ball hit the #81, he caught it, and lost it while being tackled..it would of been #5 of the day..
4. Touchdown vs the cowboys, he caught it but didnt secure the ball as he landed..

thats just the ones Ive seen him the games ive watched..Randy Moss is still by far the best WR but his hands were better in Minnesota..add that and the #3 OPI touchdowns that were taking away he would have 26 right now!!

 

[brdmaverick]

Eh, I have to go with Jerry on this one. The fact that he did do it in 12 games is unreal. As long as the media points out when Moss breaks it that Jerry did it in a short season it is fine, I think. Not a lot of people are aware of that.

I as well, tend to agree with Jerry Rice on this one. We all assume that Brady will throw at least 50 TD passes this year for the record. Imagine that 20 years from now the NFL has expanded to 20 regular season games and some quarterback has thrown for 51 TDs to break the record. We all would be sharing the same sentiments.

 

[brdmaverick]

how many td's has moss had taken away from him this season due to OPI? like 3? its kinda of moss's fault for not already having the record..he has dropped some endzone balls that he would have caught blind-folded in minnesota..4 that come to my mind..

1. Touchdown Vs the Steelers in the 4th Quarter, the ball was in his hands
2. Touchdown vs the Ravens..the ball was IN HIS HANDS
3. Touchdown vs the Bills..the ball hit the #81, he caught it, and lost it while being tackled..it would of been #5 of the day..
4. Touchdown vs the cowboys, he caught it but didnt secure the ball as he landed..

thats just the ones Ive seen him the games ive watched..Randy Moss is still by far the best WR but his hands were better in Minnesota..add that and the #3 OPI touchdowns that were taking away he would have 26 right now!!

he had two legit TDs that were taken away due to offensive pass interference

fourth quarter vs. the Cowboys
third quarter vs the Eagles

 

[MossFan4Life]

I as well, tend to agree with Jerry Rice on this one. We all assume that Brady will throw at least 50 TD passes this year for the record. Imagine that 20 years from now the NFL has expanded to 20 regular season games and some quarterback has thrown for 51 TDs to break the record. We all would be sharing the same sentiments.

I respectfully disagree. That wouldn't be the same. Moss would not have had a career worth of chances to play in 20 game seasons. On the contrary, Rice had many chances at putting up stats in 16 game seasons. It's just that he never had more than 22 tds in all those chances. Also, Jerry has had far, far better qbs than Moss with the exception of this year.

 

[MossFan4Life]

1985 sfo | 16 | 6 26 4.3 1 | 49 927 18.9 3 |
| 1986 sfo | 16 | 10 72 7.2 1 | 86 1570 18.3 15 |
| 1987 sfo | 12 | 8 51 6.4 1 | 65 1078 16.6 22 |
| 1988 sfo | 16 | 13 107 8.2 1 | 64 1306 20.4 9 |
| 1989 sfo | 16 | 5 33 6.6 0 | 82 1483 18.1 17 |
| 1990 sfo | 16 | 2 0 0.0 0 | 100 1502 15.0 13 |
| 1991 sfo | 16 | 1 2 2.0 0 | 80 1206 15.1 14 |
| 1992 sfo | 16 | 9 58 6.4 1 | 84 1201 14.3 10 |
| 1993 sfo | 16 | 3 69 23.0 1 | 98 1503 15.3 15 |
| 1994 sfo | 16 | 7 93 13.3 2 | 112 1499 13.4 13 |
| 1995 sfo | 16 | 5 36 7.2 1 | 122 1848 15.1 15 |
| 1996 sfo | 16 | 11 77 7.0 1 | 108 1254 11.6 8 |
| 1997 sfo | 2 | 1 -10 -10.0 0 | 7 78 11.1 1 |
| 1998 sfo | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 82 1157 14.1 9 |
| 1999 sfo | 16 | 2 13 6.5 0 | 67 830 12.4 5 |
| 2000 sfo | 16 | 1 -2 -2.0 0 | 75 805 10.7 7 |
| 2001 oak | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 83 1139 13.7 9 |
| 2002 oak | 16 | 3 20 6.7 0 | 92 1211 13.2 7 |
| 2003 oak | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 63 869 13.8 2 |
| 2004 oak | 4 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 5 67 13.4 0 |
| 2004 sea | 13 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 25 362 14.5 3 |


Look at all those 16 game seasons with Montana, Young, Gannon, etc. Why didn't he ever get more than 22 in all those 16 game seasons if all he needed was 16 games?