OT: How do the Steelers have the #1 D in the ENTIRE league??

[thewarden86]

According to Cold Hard Football Facts, the Steelers have have the easiest schedule in football this year:

"Next: at New England. The 2007 Steelers aren’t used to teams like New England; according to Jeff Sagarin’s strength of schedule ratings, the Steelers have faced the easiest schedule in football this year. "

This is the direct link.

WRONG

2007 Strength of schedule
Team Opponents' '06 win pct. Opponents' '06 wins Opponents' '06 losses

Raiders .539 138 118
Bills .539 138 118
Patriots .535 137 119
Titans .520 133 123
Colts .516 132 124
Chiefs .516 132 124
Jets .516 132 124
Dolphins .512 131 125
Steelers .512 131 125
Bengals .512 131 125
Ravens .508 130 126
Browns .508 130 126
Jaguars .508 130 126
Broncos .504 129 127
Lions .504 129 127
Texans .504 129 127
Chargers .504 129 127
Redskins .500 128 128
Vikings .500 128 128
Eagles .500 128 128
Cowboys .496 125 131
Giants .496 124 132
Packers .492 126 130
Seahawks .488 125 131
Saints .484 124 132
Panthers .477 122 134
Buccaneers .473 121 135
Rams .473 121 135
Falcons .473 121 135
49ers .469 120 136
Bears .465 119 137
Cardinals .461 118 138





http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2830466

 

[PromisedLand]

What do you mean? They haven't lost to a top 10 team all year.

Oh yeah...they haven't played a top 10 team all year.

Carry on.

Actually, the last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) they hadn't even played a 10 SIXTEEN team. What that means is that some of the teams they beat (e.g. Cleveland) were playing awful when the Steelers beat them, but have since moved up in the rankings.

I am not afraid of the Steelers whatsoever.

 

[ljuneau]

WRONG

2007 Strength of schedule
Team Opponents' '06 win pct. Opponents' '06 wins Opponents' '06 losses

Raiders .539 138 118
Bills .539 138 118
Patriots .535 137 119
Titans .520 133 123
Colts .516 132 124
Chiefs .516 132 124
Jets .516 132 124
Dolphins .512 131 125
Steelers .512 131 125
Bengals .512 131 125
Ravens .508 130 126
Browns .508 130 126
Jaguars .508 130 126
Broncos .504 129 127
Lions .504 129 127
Texans .504 129 127
Chargers .504 129 127
Redskins .500 128 128
Vikings .500 128 128
Eagles .500 128 128
Cowboys .496 125 131
Giants .496 124 132
Packers .492 126 130
Seahawks .488 125 131
Saints .484 124 132
Panthers .477 122 134
Buccaneers .473 121 135
Rams .473 121 135
Falcons .473 121 135
49ers .469 120 136
Bears .465 119 137
Cardinals .461 118 138

Cute list. However, Cold Hard Football Facts is more accurate. Again, This is the direct link. Their stats don't lie.

 

[thewarden86]

Cute list. However, Cold Hard Football Facts is more accurate. Again, This is the direct link. Their stats don't lie.

Your faith in stats is cute. Stats can be forumlated to prove almost any point. The Steelers have the #1 Defense and it's not because of their schedule and it's not because of the rain.

Remember, your defense got tore up by consecutive recycled QB's these last two weeks. That too, is a fact that does not lie.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

By far the most accurate stats outside of maybe Las Vegas bookie stats are the Football Outsider stats.

What ESPN says is irrelevant. They don't look at strength of opponent or any other factor, just raw data. Your raw data looks better when it is against Miami in the mud than against a good team on a normal field. That applies to us, to the Squealers, and to all teams. You need a system to compare data amoung teams. That is what Vegas does, and any other source worth a damn.

The only thing we can derive from raw data is that the Steelers are pretty good on defense.

Coldhardfootball stats are going to be better than ESPN as well.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Your faith in stats is cute. Stats can be forumlated to prove almost any point. The Steelers have the #1 Defense and it's not because of their schedule and it's not because of the rain.

Remember, your defense got tore up by consecutive recycled QB's these last two weeks. That too, is a fact that does not lie.

Another complete tool, probably getting drunk.

Talks about stats being cute and then that the Squealers have the number one defense. I guess his opinion is based on random conjecture?

You can't down talk stats and then claim the Squealers are number one at the same time. How do you know they are number one without stats, wise guy?

And don't tell me it is because you watched every game played by every football team this season and made a mental comparison. Your reliance on stats is really goddamn cute.

 

[eom]

Your faith in stats is cute. Stats can be forumlated to prove almost any point. The Steelers have the #1 Defense and it's not because of their schedule and it's not because of the rain.

Remember, your defense got tore up by consecutive recycled QB's these last two weeks. That too, is a fact that does not lie.

ok, smartass ---- indy held us to 24, baltimore held us to 27, and we held the #2 offense (indy) to 20, so the best defense in the nfl should be able to hold the pats to under 20 this week.

 

[thewarden86]

By far the most accurate stats outside of maybe Las Vegas bookie stats are the Football Outsider stats.

What ESPN says is irrelevant. They don't look at strength of opponent or any other factor, just raw data. Your raw data looks better when it is against Miami in the mud than against a good team on a normal field. That applies to us, to the Squealers, and to all teams. You need a system to compare data amoung teams. That is what Vegas does, and any other source worth a damn.

The only thing we can derive from raw data is that the Steelers are pretty good on defense.

Coldhardfootball stats are going to be better than ESPN as well.

Actually, IMO all that is bunch of crap. You know as well as I that the "experts" are about as right in thier speculations as I am or you are. They use those fancy numbers and I don't. Case in point? The Patriots were dominant last year. Yet they still found a way to lose to the Phins. Who saw that coming? Who saw the Steelers losing to the Jets???? Contrary to what some may think, 3-4 inch mud, slows an offense down, thus limiting scoring (PIT-MIA). The longer you lose the greater odds that you'll win the next game (Phins). The longer you win the greater the odds you'll lose the next game (Pats). I do believe that. It's not concrete, but it's more or less been proven.

 

[thewarden86]

ok, smartass ---- indy held us to 24, baltimore held us to 27, and we held the #2 offense (indy) to 20, so the best defense in the nfl should be able to hold the pats to under 20 this week.

First of all, I was posting a reply to someone else. Second, you don't know me well enough to call me smart@ss. Regardless you need to chill with the name calling.

I don't care if you score 75 and our defensive ranking sinks to 33rd. As long as we score 76+.

 

[ljuneau]

The longer you lose the greater odds that you'll win the next game (Phins). The longer you win the greater the odds you'll lose the next game (Pats). I do believe that. It's not concrete, but it's more or less been proven.

We're talking about football, not playing craps. Look, the Steelers do have a great defense. I'd rank them 3rd, behind the Colts and Cowboys. And, yea, we've played them both, in their respective house. I don't see the Steelers posing a bigger challenge to our offense.

 

[eom]

The longer you lose the greater odds that you'll win the next game (Phins). The longer you win the greater the odds you'll lose the next game (Pats). I do believe that. It's not concrete, but it's more or less been proven.

that is the single stupidest thing I've ever seen on this board.
you sound like a broken down horseplayer.

 

[thewarden86]

that is the single stupidest thing I've ever seen on this board.
you sound like a broken down horseplayer.

THEN DON'T READ IT.

"Ignorance is bliss" Ever heard that one?

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Actually, IMO all that is bunch of crap. You know as well as I that the "experts" are about as right in thier speculations as I am or you are. They use those fancy numbers and I don't. Case in point? The Patriots were dominant last year. Yet they still found a way to lose to the Phins. Who saw that coming? Who saw the Steelers losing to the Jets???? Contrary to what some may think, 3-4 inch mud, slows an offense down, thus limiting scoring (PIT-MIA). The longer you lose the greater odds that you'll win the next game (Phins). The longer you win the greater the odds you'll lose the next game (Pats). I do believe that. It's not concrete, but it's more or less been proven.

Well at least we can see that you have nothing at all concrete to back up what you say.

 

[eom]

I don't care if you score 75 and our defensive ranking sinks to 33rd. As long as we score 76+.

well, good luck w/that.

 

[thewarden86]

I guess his opinion is based on random conjecture?

NO. I just don't put an over reliance on them. I have watched every Steelers game this year. I only put so much into stats. I got your tool right here punk.

 

[ljuneau]

I don't care if you score 75 and our defensive ranking sinks to 33rd. As long as we score 76+.

 

[thewarden86]

Well at least we can see that you have nothing at all concrete to back up what you say.

Like statistics? lol, and you call me a tool. You must be part of the know it all pepsi generation. How much faith do you think your brain child coach puts into stats. So if I say the Steelers are 9-3 I'm a stat person now? If I were you I'd start asking god why he gave you a tiny brain.

You too EOM.

 

[eom]

THEN DON'T READ IT.

"Ignorance is bliss" Ever heard that one?

you might want to think that first line through again, genius.

you must be the happiest guy on the planet.

 

[thewarden86]

you might want to think that first line through again, genius.

you must be the happiest guy on the planet.

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Do you have any high tension wires near your house?