Galeb
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My exact first thought. It's like when they were asking guys if they could tell the difference between a 12.5 psi ball and 10.5 psi ball...but none asked if they could tell the difference between a 11.3 psi ball and 11.2 psi ball, which is what the accusation actually is.
Agree 100%. One of my favorites.
I think we are trying to narrow the criteria to movies that Afflack had a leading role in.
Yeah, his problem seems to be the timing...like, wouldn't it have been better if he'd been passed out in his hotel instead of making his surrender statement in San Francisco?I don't think Kraft's problem is not drinking enough.
In 2016 so far... buzzed once at a bbq. Can't wait for football so I have an excuse to kill a 12 pack.
Agreed. I thought more WTF than, "Go Ben you Pats' homie!!"He sounds pretty drunk to me.
About the 8% comment, it is really 4%, and that 4% is all due to the ideal gas law. This also gets back to the absolute pressure/relative pressure confusion.
12.5 psi is the beginning relative pressure = 14.7 + 12.5 = 27.2 psi absolute pressure (since atmospheric pressure at sea level = 14.7 psi).
Of course this does not (and is not intended to) provide full context. We could add that the range of variation among the Patriots balls was 1.35 psi, or around 600% greater than the maximum alleged deflation. The precision of the "experiment" should also address the variation associated with the starting psi (assumed by Wells to be zero), the variation of the gauges (assumed by Wells to be zero by over-ruling referee recall), among other things.The Pats footballs started at 12.5, they ended at 11.5, and yes they should have ended at 11.3-11.5 (depending on assumptions of temperatures).
The 4% drop comes from the measurements, not the expectations, from using the correct gauge, and from properly taking into account atmospheric pressure. You can arrive at 8% if you ignore the atmospheric pressure, i.e. going from the number 12.5 to the number 11.5 is an 8% drop, but that is meaningless.
Why is this thread not still at or near the top of page 1?!
And one logical fallacy here is the comparing of two footballs and informing the person that one indeed has less air than the other.
Here are two footballs, tell me which one has less air than the other
is very much different from
Why didn't you notice the footballs you throw, which are constantly losing and regaining pressure during outside cold games anyway, were slightly more deflated than they should be?
How much does Wells/Exponent say the footballs were deflated by? I defy anyone to compare 4 footballs (or maybe 2, but thats a 50/50 chance) and tell me one a reliable basis which football is deflated .4 psi less
PS: GFY Borges.