Thank goodness BB didn't actually touch Sarah Thomas

[robbomango]

BB was clearly expressing his disdain toward women refs by demonstrating how he'd like to grab her by both shoulders and body slam her face first off the turf just for being on the field.

 

[robbomango]

In regards to the article, He states that she did a good job keeping her cool, why wouldn't she? BB was also very cool, they were having what looked to be a very civil exchange in a loud stadium. Talk about drumming up garbage to gossip about YeeeeeeeeeeSH!

 

[robbomango]

HEADLINE: Bill Belichick has brief conversation with a sideline official!!!
Clicks: ZERO

 

[FirstAndGoal]

In the article Chase says BB already gets away with too much...

I'm curious....what is he talking about? He's absolutely cool compared to Rex or the Harbaugh brothers or any number of other coaches.

This, again, is a fabrication by people who want to take down someone.

 

[Kontradiction]

I start a new gig in New Smyrna Beach. I know it's like 1.5 hours from Jacksonville but was going to ask if you know the area. After seeing this post, I'll just ask which are the best strip joints.

Don't know much about New Smyrna outside the surf and sharks. Sorry, man. It's not a bad little area, though, from what little I've seen.

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

There are two possibilities behind your salient point: (A) This is about equality (let the best person win the job) but it is a windy road to achieve that philosophy, or (B) it is much more about social engineering to sate a very specific slice of american ideology, one that will actually never be sated, an attempt that will always fall short, an ideology that will always find something wrong/nefarious with the attempt to sate.

"equality" in practice is never about the "most qualified for the job." It's usually just the nice sounding word we use to masquerade injustices like "affirmative action" or ethnic nepotism.

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

Why should there be anything exclusively for men in this day and age? If she can do the job, and it seems she can, what's the problem?

1. Based on the number of false start penalties she missed (basically her ONE job), I question whether she is capable of doing the job.

2. Since you have Karl Marx in your profile pic, I'm guessing that there aren't going to be many political issues we're going to be in agreement about.

 

[goheels22002]

I wish that Belichick had hugged Walt Anderson before the AFCC.

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

The fact that this "story" has been trumpeted with the key word "female" in front of ref presents yet another PC overkill issue to add to the millions of other trumped up special interest idiocies foisted on us since the 70's.

The story SHOULD have been "did BB touch the REF"...NOT the "female ref". For obvious reasons, this "story" was set in motion to add to the already ridiculous outside media vendetta against the Patriots, Bill Belechick and US,the solid, law abiding,reasonable and equitable citizens of New England.Now the goddamned mid-west moron majority will pound the airwaves and the media outlets with "Patriots are sexual assault cheaters too!!!". meanwhile, the Texan genius party in Dallas and Houston will continue to party with strippers and league officials yukking up their ten gallon hats at "them thar cheaters and women touchers!". Skulls need cracking, starting with that POS sitting in his posh snake den on Park Ave.

I love to hear calls to action and encouraging people to grab the torches and pitchforks. However, considering all the economic and cultural problems we're currently dealing with as a country, corruption in professional sports may not be our most pressing concern.

 

[BradyFTW!]

OK, if you want to believe some former hooker for big pharm is the Jackie Robinson of feminism, that's your business. I'll keep hoping and praying against all odds that some day the men of this country will get their collective balls back.

Well if we needed any more proof that your argument's based on nothing of any substance, that pretty much seals it. How is a "former hooker for big pharm" any less qualified to be an NFL ref than an insurance underwriter (Boger), a lawyer (Hochuli), a banker (Greg Meyer), or the owner of a retail store (Steratore), etc?

I'm not some ultra-liberal megafeminist, here. Frankly, I think the modern PC movement is ridiculous and I'm staunchly against it, but it just doesn't apply here. I'm not making some pro-affirmative action case stating that the lack of female refs would be a travesty that must be corrected. I'm saying that there's absolutely no objective reason given by anyone here why Sarah Thomas is less qualified to be an official than dozens of current male officials. That's it. I'm arguing that she should be evaluated based on the exact same standards as every other official, with no special treatment given based on gender. If you have a problem with her background, her experience, or her performance on the field, then there's still no particular reason to single her out because she's no worse than dozens of others in any of those regards. It's not like she's dragging the mean down, the rest all suck just as badly as she does.

As it stands, you're just transparently arguing for a male 'safe space' that women can be arbitrarily held out of because their presence somehow hurts your feelings and is an assault on your manhood. You ranting is just a bunch of identity politics-obsessed demagoguery, and it's just as stupid now when you do it as it is when the ultra-PC crowd does it.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Women need to stay off of the field and out of the locker room. I know it's not a popular view, but what is wrong with a male-exclusive sport?

Ahh, okay, I get it now. Football is your safe space.



You have a lot more in common with an 18 year old gender studies major than you realize.

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

Well if we needed any more proof that your argument's based on nothing of any substance, that pretty much seals it. How is a "former hooker for big pharm" any less qualified to be an NFL ref than an insurance underwriter (Boger), a lawyer (Hochuli), a banker (Greg Meyer), or the owner of a retail store (Steratore), etc?

I'm not some ultra-liberal megafeminist, here. Frankly, I think the modern PC movement is ridiculous and I'm staunchly against it, but it just doesn't apply here. I'm not making some pro-affirmative action case stating that the lack of female refs would be a travesty that must be corrected. I'm saying that there's absolutely no objective reason given by anyone here why Sarah Thomas is less qualified to be an official than dozens of current male officials. That's it. I'm arguing that she should be evaluated based on the exact same standards as every other official, with no special treatment given based on gender. If you have a problem with her background, her experience, or her performance on the field, then there's still no particular reason to single her out because she's no worse than dozens of others in any of those regards. It's not like she's dragging the mean down, the rest all suck just as badly as she does.

As it stands, you're just transparently arguing for a male 'safe space' that women can be arbitrarily held out of because their presence somehow hurts your feelings and is an assault on your manhood. You ranting is just a bunch of identity politics-obsessed demagoguery, and it's just as stupid now when you do it as it is when the ultra-PC crowd does it.

1. Considering all the false start penalties she missed in that game, I think it's okay to openly question whether she is competent. The problem is anyone questioning her job performance will be called a sexist regardless of whether their points have merit.

2. So since most male refs suck at their job it's okay to hire a female ref who sucks at it as well? That's a pretty facile argument.

3. I don't really understand your point on why having "men only" or "women only" activity is a bad thing. Men and women are different. They have different strengths and weaknesses. AND there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I think it's far more dysfunctional to encourage women to act more like men and vice versa than to just accept and appreciate their differences but, clearly, I'm in a small minority on that view.

Edit:

4. Comparing a pharmaceuticals rep to hookers is grossly unfair . . . to hookers.

 

[JackBauer]

I'll keep hoping and praying against all odds that some day the men of this country will get their collective balls back.

The 1950s called. They want their gender roles back.

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

The 1950s called. They want their gender roles back.

Right, those nightmarish days when men ruthlessly oppressed women by working all day and paying for everything.

 

[JackBauer]

Right, those nightmarish days when men ruthlessly oppressed women by working all day and paying for everything.

Yeah, heaven forbid you recognize that not every woman wants to stay at home and pop out kids for a living.

 

[BradyFTW!]

1. Considering all the false start penalties she missed in that game, I think it's okay to openly question whether she is competent. The problem is anyone questioning her job performance will be called a sexist regardless of whether their points have merit.

I agree that it's fair to question her competence. It's fair to question anyone's competence when they consistently **** up. But you've pretty much just invented this whole notion that anyone who criticizes her will be accused of sexism. You're not being accused of sexism for criticizing her.

2. So since most male refs suck at their job it's okay to hire a female ref who sucks at it as well? That's a pretty facile argument.

That's not at all what I said. What I said is that she should be held to exactly the same standard as every other ref, so if you have a problem with her you should have at least that much of a problem with almost every other ref in the league. I'm fine with criticizing refs. But picking just one ref to declare unfit for the game based on your own preexisting political leanings... well, let's just say that you're being about as objective and reasonable in this as Goodell's being to Brady.

3. I don't really understand your point on why having "men only" or "women only" activity is a bad thing. Men and women are different. They have different strengths and weaknesses. AND there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I think it's far more dysfunctional to encourage women to act more like men and vice versa than to just accept and appreciate their differences but, clearly, I'm in a small minority on that view.

I agree, actually. That's why I think the recent push to have women on the front lines of combat and firefighting is naive and ill-advised at best. There are some fields where the innate differences between men and women are of significance, and in those fields we should not pretend that they don't exist. Refereeing football games is not one of those fields. If men in their mid 60s can do the job, there's no reason why a woman can't. If and when the day comes that Sarah Thomas can't meet the same physical standards that men are held to, then she should no longer be officiating games. As long as she's capable of maintaining the same exact standards that the men are held to, then there's no legitimate reason why her being a woman should be considered a problem.

 

[woolster22]

After watching us drop grenades on our own feet sunday, it is clear she is blind. Therefor she doesn't meet the standards to be an NFL referee. What was it, 8 gifs of Philly tackles clearly moving early (one of them the tackle was taking his 2nd step as the ball was was snapped), and there were 3 more that were left out as they were much closer and hard to judge.

I had said earlier I wasn't sure if she was the line judge, but it seems she was. In that case, she has no business as a replacement ref, let alone part of a Sunday crew.

Edit: I am in no way blaming those no calls for anything that happened, simply pointing out how incompetent the person responsible for making those calls was on sunday.

 

[Kontradiction]

After watching us drop grenades on our own feet sunday, it is clear she is blind. Therefor she doesn't meet the standards to be an NFL referee. What was it, 8 gifs of Philly tackles clearly moving early (one of them the tackle was taking his 2nd step as the ball was was snapped), and there were 3 more that were left out as they were much closer and hard to judge.

I had said earlier I wasn't sure if she was the line judge, but it seems she was. In that case, she has no business as a replacement ref, let alone part of a Sunday crew.

Edit: I am in no way blaming those no calls for anything that happened, simply pointing out how incompetent the person responsible for making those calls was on sunday.

Is she for sure the one that missed those false starts? If she is, then I agree.

 

[woolster22]

Is she for sure the one that missed those false starts? If she is, then I agree.

I'm not sure TBH, she is listed as a line judge here: 2015 NFL Officials | NFL Football Operations

So I'd say she was the one asleep at the switch on those calls.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

This ref, who has some spotlight on her, is out of her depth (as most new refs would be) talking with BB. So if BB approached her in a way that was more wise old teacher-young student??? It is because at its heart it is.
The rest of this is clickbait nonsense.