15 and 1.... 3rd seed possible

[patsfaninpa]

Who gets the 1 seed if Cincy and Pats both go 16-0?

 

[FCB02062]

Who gets the 1 seed if Cincy and Pats both go 16-0?

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

 

[patsfaninpa]

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

Thanks. Dumb question though. What is strength of victory? Wouldn't that be the same as strength of schedule if we both go undefeated?

 

[Oswlek]

I'll play your little game. If Carolina wins out, they'll be the #1 seed whether it's real life or the delusional 7-0 universe. GB would have 2 losses because they play each other. I believe it is impossible for the 2 seed in the NFC to be 15-1 now.

If Green Bay wins out and Carolina wins all but their Packer game, then both top seeds would be 15-1.

Not going to happen of course, but if the Bengals were to go 15-1 the Pats wouldn't automatically be the 3rd seed--it would get into the tie-breaking weeds.

Yup. IIRC, H2H in a three way tie only goes into effect if one team has beaten both others.

 

[mosslost]

Str

Who gets the 1 seed if Cincy and Pats both go 16-0?

strenght of victory.. We will win that

 

[Oswlek]

Thanks. Dumb question though. What is strength of victory? Wouldn't that be the same as strength of schedule if we both go undefeated?

Yes. If two teams tied and played identical schedules (not possible, but roll with me), the one who lost to the 6-10 team and would have a better strength of victory than the one who lost to the 10-6 team.

 

[BobDigital]

After Pats vs Broncos Week 12, These are their remaining games.
I Luv our chances for Home Field Throughout if both undefeated.

PATS:

Eagles
@ Texans
Titans
@ jets*
@ Dolphins


Broncos:

@ Chargers
Raiders
@ Steelers.
Bengals
Chargers

Interesting. So even if the Pats lose before Denver as long as they beat Denver they should be able to keep that edge over them. Bengals are not winning out

 

[BobDigital]

Thanks. Dumb question though. What is strength of victory? Wouldn't that be the same as strength of schedule if we both go undefeated?

Edit: Never mind, already explained and i did it wrong now that i think about it.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I dunno. It's less likely than winning 19 coin flips in 25 attempts, and apparently that's impossible, so this scenario must be too.

 

[FourierSeries]

Bengals are not going 16-0 or 15-1 just stop with that lol. They lose to Arizona, Broncos, and probably Steelers and maybe one surprise loss.

Bengals beat Denver last year. Granted, they were at home, but they are playing much better this year.

 

[Froob]

Bengals beat Denver last year. Granted, they were at home, but they are playing much better this year.

And Dalton was garbage that game. If it were in Cincy I'd say toss up but in Denver? Would have to be a huge defensive performance to win that one. Talib and Harris Jr are going to have fun with that one.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Who gets the 1 seed if Cincy and Pats both go 16-0?

It will depend on who ends the season with a greater strength of schedule. In the event that the Pats and the Bengals both go 16-0, they'd both have beaten the Broncos, so that would more or less cancel out. Currently, the Pats have a higher strength of schedule rating, and as long as the rest of the division keeps winning out-of-division games I would expect that to hold. If 6 of our wins are against the Jets, Bills and Dolphins, and 6 of theirs are against the Ravens, Browns, and Steelers, it sure looks like that will favor us.

That said, there's no way two teams are finishing 16-0.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

This post is a waste of bandwidth. Three teams aren't going 15-1 and 14-2 will get a bye if not the #1 seed.

We could play many theoreticals that are far fetched, though it would be hard to match this one.

 

[FourierSeries]

And Dalton was garbage that game. If it were in Cincy I'd say toss up but in Denver? Would have to be a huge defensive performance to win that one. Talib and Harris Jr are going to have fun with that one.

I'm not sure I agree. Denver's offense has been **** (GB game where the Packers missed key defensive players not withstanding.) Cincy does have a good defense though, so they should be able to keep Denver's point total low. I foresee it being a low scoring affair. The Bengals have surprisingly been good in those types of games this year.

 

[dannydyn]

Who cares, we would ***-rape both the Bengals and/or the Broncos. Bring it!

 

[dannydyn]

I see the Bengals as possibly losing any of the following:

@ Arizona
vs. St. Louis
vs. Steelers
@denver

I see the Broncos possibly losing any of the following:

@ Indy
vs. KC (divisional)
vs. Oakland (divisional)
@Steelers
vs. Bengals

I see us possibly losing:

@ Denver
@ Jets

 

[mosslost]

Scenario not far fetched at all. Three teams are 7-0 and the schedule sucks. Look at the schedules and think harder.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

unlikely..but messed up.....sad that the DEN game will have a huge part in the Pats seed...god they shouldn't be undefeated AT ALL.

 

[Off The Grid]

You can't have 3 16-0 teams in the same conference because...math.

Four divisions in each conference...each team plays the other three teams in their division twice, so you can't have 2 16-0 teams in the same division. And each division plays every team in one other conference division.

The most you could possibly have in a conference are two 16-0 teams.

Oh, crap, that's right: That whole business of playing the entire other Division is a recent development, though indeed it presumably goes back to the origination of the current format. I was stuck in the remembrance of previous Years, when instead of going 1-1-4 with the Conference's other Divisions as we currently do, we'd go 3-3 or something, thus making the Triple 16-0 bit and thus the 20-0 bit theoretically possible...Oh, well!!

*I'm deleting that Post: Don't want anyone being misled by my dumb @$$!!

 

[ivanvamp]

I'll play your little game. If Carolina wins out, they'll be the #1 seed whether it's real life or the delusional 7-0 universe. GB would have 2 losses because they play each other. I believe it is impossible for the 2 seed in the NFC to be 15-1 now.

If GB beats Carolina and they both win all the rest of their games, then Carolina will be the #2 seed at 15-1, losing the H2H tiebreaker with the Packers.