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Let's see who is right?? I'm not saying bend over.. I'm saying he wants to end it.. so does Kraft...

You dodos are expecting a Chuck Norris movie... think about it logically..

"You dodos"? You log on to a website with over 25,000 members and withing 35 posts of extremely negative nonsense, you insult our entire membership with the always effective "you dodos" insult?

heh, yeah...Hi Dolfan! Your sunbaked pinbrain has finally triggered what's left of your firing neurons into this blind ,near mongoloidal attempt to play the " I'm a rational Pats fan" meme. Look, Buford...it's been done before...countless times., YOUR latest attempt at playing the oldest internet ruse known is so pathetically lame, I just had to post this response in order to give you an easy way out of the pillory you've gotten yourself locked into. Your decision...and good luck with the new offense.
 
"You dodos"? You log on to a website with over 25,000 members and withing 35 posts of extremely negative nonsense, you insult our entire membership with the always effective "you dodos" insult?

heh, yeah...Hi Dolfan! Your sunbaked pinbrain has finally triggered what's left of your firing neurons into this blind ,near mongoloidal attempt to play the " I'm a rational Pats fan" meme. Look, Buford...it's been done before...countless times., YOUR latest attempt at playing the oldest internet ruse known is so pathetically lame, I just had to post this response in order to give you an easy way out of the pillory you've gotten yourself locked into. Your decision...and good luck with the new offense.
Ok joker, nice to meet you.. thanks for having me... I think there was a lame attempt to insult me first... sorry dodos is such an offensive term... I dont pretend to be blind, rational, irrational,, balanced or off balance.. I am just a fan
 
I don't think we need to validate our accomplishments with any other team's fanbase. The Pats are champs and have won more Super Bowls than any other NFL team in the last 20 years. Those are the facts and the opinions of others on that subject really isn't that relevant to what is fact.

And if Steelers fans want to talk down our titles then I'd be more than happy to have a friendly discussion with them about two people named Alvin Roy and Dr Richard Rydze. I don't think they'd have a whole lot to say after that.
That's how I feel.... I personally like to ignore the crap... but being a fan is reactionary...
 
As I understand it, Brady/Patriots can not fight any sanctions handed down by the NFL because of the collective bargaining agreement. But does a Brady defamation law suite fall under the CBA jurisdiction? I'm thinking it doesnt. Hopefully I'm right.
 
A very real possibility, I feel, is to charge the NFL with unfair labor practices regarding provably and knowably false leaks to the media that negatively influenced public opinion vs. Tom Brady.

Such a challenge, if successful, would remove NFL executives, including Goodell and Vincent, from determining punishment. It would then have to go to an arbitrator.

The tough part is that it might require determining who it was that leaked the false info, to Mortensen, for example
 
If you have the $$$$to hire the right lawyers you can find a way to sue. eye will know the right lawyers and Brady (a very proud person who is mindful of his place in the history of the game has the money.
 
an appeal will trash any punishment

the funny thing here is the assumption of ultimate power that goodell has......he certainly does up until the moment he hands out a punishment, but the appeals process gets to address the issue with facts

as I have said before, the league will bring a ****storm of negativity upon itself the moment any punishment that includes a suspension.....hell, if brady insist on claiming complete innocence, then there may be a ****storm for ANY punishment

there is not an independent arbitrator in the world that would support anything being bandied about these days, and wells does not get to hear the appeal
 
Can anyone point to some articles that lay out exactly what the process is, under the CBA, of challenging a player punishment? I've seen so many conflicting things in this and other threads.

Some people talk about "independent arbitrators". Other people say Goodell picks the arbitrator (and can pick himself). Other people take it as a given that the punishment can be challenged in court, and so on.

Do we have any definitive information on what the actual process is?
 
He won't sue.. it would take insane resources..

Come back.

Win the Super Bowl... let the rival fans sob some more..

Then come back the following season and do it again...
 
Should Brady find himself punished in any way I think a kickstarter campaign should be started up. Not because Brady needs the monetary help but to a) show Brady support b) to draw national attention.

Then, once Brady wins, he can choose to donate the monies raised to the charities of his choice.
 
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He won't sue.. it would take insane resources..

Come back.

Win the Super Bowl... let the rival fans sob some more..

Then come back the following season and do it again...
He and Gisele have a net worth of $410m

With endorsements and salary, TB12s comp is ~$15m in 2015.

Gisele's will be around $45m.

Resources aren't the issue.

I'll bet my bottom dollar Brady will fight this to the death. Bad enough his kids will be faced with some jerk calling their dad a cheater. At least he can give them ammunition to fight back.

As a parent, that's what I would be thinking about.
 
He and Gisele have a net worth of $410m

With endorsements and salary, TB12s comp is ~$15m in 2015.

Gisele's will be around $45m.

Resources aren't the issue.

I'll bet my bottom dollar Brady will fight this to the death. Bad enough his kids will be faced with some jerk calling their dad a cheater. At least he can give them ammunition to fight back.

As a parent, that's what I would be thinking about.
Do you want him spending his time fighting a lawsuit that there is a marginal chance he would win, or do you want him to prepare for football?? I am a football fan.. I really don't get caught up in the personal stuff players go through.. I love TB.. but players have such a better quality of life for me to expend any emotional energy on them other than football...

So prepare for the season and win another super bowl... people will scream cheater no matter what... so keep poking holes in their hearts with your greatness..
 
Do you want him spending his time fighting a lawsuit that there is a marginal chance he would win, or do you want him to prepare for football?? I am a football fan.. I really don't get caught up in the personal stuff players go through.. I love TB.. but players have such a better quality of life for me to expend any emotional energy on them other than football...

So prepare for the season and win another super bowl... people will scream cheater no matter what... so keep poking holes in their hearts with your greatness..
I struggle with that. Believe me...

But at the end of the day, The NFL is calling TB12 a cheater. If he accepts punishment, that means he agrees with tge reports findings.

He has the resources and the case to not only prove his innocence and clear his name but shread Goodell and discredit this sham of an investigation.
 
I struggle with that. Believe me...

But at the end of the day, The NFL is calling TB12 a cheater. If he accepts punishment, that means he agrees with tge reports findings.

He has the resources and the case to not only prove his innocence and clear his name but shread Goodell and discredit this sham of an investigation.
Trust me... I see your point.. he can just deny it.... suing the NFL has a lot of risk... by taking the punishment he doesn't accept guilt.. he can just deny it to the grave.....

Let's say he is suspended four games and the pats go 1-3.. ,Tom comes in and rallies them to another sb victory.... that would HAVE to silence critics...
 
Trust me... I see your point.. he can just deny it.... suing the NFL has a lot of risk... by taking the punishment he doesn't accept guilt.. he can just deny it to the grave.....

Let's say he is suspended four games and the pats go 1-3.. ,Tom comes in and rallies them to another sb victory.... that would HAVE to silence critics...

I just don't see it the same way, Sam. When you willfully chose not to challenge someone calling you a cheater, you have publicly accepted it.

I love you scenario. But people will still call him a cheater.

Yes- fighting has risk. But doing nothing has more.
 
Brady has several decisions to make.

He needs to decide whether he's going to take this further than an appeal to the League with the NFLPA. I say that because I think that the likelihood of an appeal through the League's appeals process, conducted according to the League's rules, is pretty much a certainty.

In order to go make the decision as to whether he should go beyond the League's appeals process, he needs to get legal advice from people who actually know what they're talking about as to what he could do, what it would cost and his likelihood of success. He should probably be talking to someone like Bob Barnett or David Boies. I'm not a lawyer, but the bar for "Defamation" is pretty high when it comes to public figures, so I'm not sure whether that would even be on the table.

If he decides to pursue legal action outside the NFL's appeals process, he needs to decide how far he's willing to go. Money's not the issue as he and Gisele could bankroll a multi-million dollar suit, but he needs to decide if the "Cost-benefit" trade-off is worth it. What would his objective be?

To clear his name? There's really nothing he can do that is going to convince people outside of Patriots Nation of his innocence or lack of complicity in this regard. Minds are made up and they're not going to be unmade. Trying to convince people outside of Patriots Nation that Brady is either innocent or not complicit in "Deflategate" is like trying to convince people that OJ is going to find the "real killer" one day. So, he'd be pursuing that objective for the sake of his legacy, not for any difference it will make in the court of public opinion today. Will that be worth the ten or so million it would cost, with an uncertain outcome in the first place? Only he can make that decision, once he has all the facts.

Scorched earth? Many lawsuits are filed just for that purpose...not to win, but to embarrass the other side in Discovery, etc. Is he angry enough that he would like to tear down the League and those who brought this all to pass? Will that kind of satisfaction be worth the ten or so million it would cost, even if he ends up losing his suit? Only he can make that decision, once he has all the facts.

So, Brady has some big decisions to make that will define not only how many games he plays this season, but his legacy. I don't envy the position in which he finds himself and hope he is getting the very best advice.
 
If I were Brady, I'd hire Alan Dershowitz, or Jeffery Kessler and let him go after Anderson, Kensil, McNally, et als, in depositions and, if necessary, in court. They'd get ripped to shreds.
 
It is hilarious that you think he won't fight it because he could get banned for life. Honestly how old are you? Banned for life? Really? Because the NFL's lawyer came up with a report that has more holes in it than swiss cheese that says he is of the opinion that Brady had an idea that it was going on.

Please.


You are either a troll or you really need to do some research.


All the players suspended in the Saints Bounty case had all their suspensions overturned and those were suspensions based on them trying to injure players for money.
I agree that the new poster is probably a troll (joined the Board on Wednesday of Deflategate week? Come on!). And the "Banned for life" stuff is pure nonsense. But, while I would put it differently, the poster does have a point.

Brady alone will be the one to decide whether to pursue this beyond the normal appeals process through the NFLPA.

Should he pursue a "scorched earth" ("Chuck Norris movie") course of action or should he live with the outcome of the appeals process and spend his energy on addressing the impact of all of this on his legacy in other ways over the next several years? Only he can make that decision.

As I said in my longer post above, he has several important decisions to make and he needs to get advice from people who actually know what they are talking about...I freely admit that I am not qualified to advise him in this regard.
 
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