Reiss expects Pats to be fined-deflategate? No farking way

[Ivan]

If Doyel expects a small fine then I'm guessing the league will apologize profusely to the Patriots, award them the Colts first pick, and they execute Kensil.

Life really is beautiful.

 

[RayClay]

So, if the Pats are fined despite no wrong doing, does that mean they have to fine both teams every time they play a game in cold weather?

I mean those balls will be deflated.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

So, if the Pats are fined despite no wrong doing, does that mean they have to fine both teams every time they play a game in cold weather?

I mean those balls will be deflated.

Maybe...league has to save face over this mess..a fine would do some of that

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

So, if the Pats are fined despite no wrong doing, does that mean they have to fine both teams every time they play a game in cold weather?

I mean those balls will be deflated.

I've raised that point several times. Nobody takes it seriously. OK maybe it's me. But cold weather games will rack up the fines & punishments. Bob Kraft's mission in the league should be to see that it is enforced with a vengeance.

 

[rochrist]

FWIW, Grey Doyel also expects a small fine for the pats, but greg doyel is also an idiot.

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports...-small-penalty-for-patriots-with-deflategate/

I was amused by his protestations that he's now so terrribly, terribly BORED by the whole affair. This from the assclown who wanted the Pats banned from the NFL back in Feb. Translation: I've figured out that nothing was going on and I'm desperately trying to avoid looking like more of an idiot than I already do.

 

[loosebearing]

They were talking about deflategate on the radio today because of an interview with Greg Doyle and this dawned on me -

that the NFL has a rule in place to inflate a football to the level of it being not optimal for the offense.

That someone said that if the ball was to be less than 12 PSI then the offense would be at a great advantage. So we will pass a rule that will make all quarterbacks uneasy with handling the football to keep the integrity of the game intact so that the defense has a chance.

We can't give the offense that much of an advantage. We must overinflated the football for integrity.

 

[supafly]

So, if the Pats are fined despite no wrong doing, does that mean they have to fine both teams every time they play a game in cold weather?

I mean those balls will be deflated.

It's possible that a new ruling or standard will be part of it as well.

For example, maybe they have balls around the higher side of the spectrum either in some instances or even permanently, which is just about the only reasonable explanation for why IND's balls were still within range.

Obviously, it's going to be a lightly enforced rule no matter what.

 

[Joker]

How about this...crapcan that lying weasel R. Stokoe Eliteboydell, his rotten ba$tard catspaw scumbag Kensil, hire a counter to Bornstein and Grubman's obvious NY centric interests, preferably from the South, Midwest and West coast...and compile a list of PROVEN executive talent with no agendas/history involving NY teams.The big Rotten has had a stranglehold for too long on the way this league is run. Flush it clean.

 

[Joker]

Why should you, a Pats fan, expect the worst possible decision from R. Stokoe?...go back a few years to 2012 and just READ what Bill Simmons wrote in his column on the Saints mess...it's a scary foreshadowing of EXACTLY where we are today and what we face form this lying two faced weasel...

http://grantland.com/features/a-hierarchy-hypocrites/


Tired of being dragged through the mud of New Orleans’s bounty scandal, Fujita crafted 100 carefully chosen words to say everything about Goodell that needed to be said.

“The commissioner says he is disappointed in me,” Fujita hissed. “The truth is, I’m disappointed in him. His positions on player health and safety since a 2009 congressional hearing on concussions have been inconsistent at best. He failed to acknowledge a link between concussions and post-career brain disease, pushed for an 18-game regular season, committed to a full season of Thursday night games, has continually challenged players’ rights to file workers compensation claims for on-the-job injuries, and he employed incompetent replacement officials for the start of the 2012 season. His actions or lack thereof are by the league’s own definition, ‘conduct detrimental.'”

Translation: This dude is a H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E.

If you noticed, Goodell never responded — not even after Fujita called him “condescending” and “extremely desperate,” then complained about Goodell’s “absolute abuse of the power that’s been afforded to the Commissioner.” By continuing to trade shots with Fujita, Goodell would have inadvertently broken the golden rule of hip-hop: Thou shalt never beef down. And after word trickled out last weekend that Fujita had suffered a potentially career-ending neck injury, there was little chance Goodell would fire back. Even Stern during his swaggerlicious apex wouldn’t have feuded with a badly injured player.

You can plainly see what a complete toolbag, boob incompetant R. Stokoe was THEN...yet people think things have changed? No. He's WORSE than ever. A pathologically lying moron with a 44 million dollar a year bully pulpit playing supreme dictator of all he surveys. Please. If the doctor tells you "see that raging cancer growing bigger every day on your face...we HAVE TO REMOVE IT or you will die", you don't say, ahh ,what the heck let's see, it might stop this time.

 

[VectorPrime]

I bet Joker could find a link between Goodell and Hitler if he tried to.

How about this...crapcan that lying weasel R. Stokoe Eliteboydell, his rotten ba$tard catspaw scumbag Kensil, hire a counter to Bornstein and Grubman's obvious NY centric interests, preferably from the South, Midwest and West coast...and compile a list of PROVEN executive talent with no agendas/history involving NY teams.The big Rotten has had a stranglehold for too long on the way this league is run. Flush it clean.

It's seriously like you're speaking a different language.

 

[rochrist]

I bet Joker could find a link between Goodell and Hitler if he tried to.


It's seriously like you're speaking a different language.

Seems reasonable to me!

 

[Ivan]

I was amused by his protestations that he's now so terrribly, terribly BORED by the whole affair. This from the assclown who wanted the Pats banned from the NFL back in Feb. Translation: I've figured out that nothing was going on and I'm desperately trying to avoid looking like more of an idiot than I already do.

That's exactly what i took from it. Doyel realizes they did nothing wrong and he is slinking away from all of the absurd horsesh.t he wrote hoping no one will remember his role in this fiasco.

 

[glm]

I bet Joker could find a link between Goodell and Hitler if he tried to.


It's seriously like you're speaking a different language.

I understood it perfectly

 

[Peachhead]

So, if the Pats are fined despite no wrong doing, does that mean they have to fine both teams every time they play a game in cold weather?

I mean those balls will be deflated.

I think they will change the rule slightly after they fine us. So the Pats violation will be basically a one off.

Either:
1 - The balls will be within 12.5 and 13.5 PSI at the start of the game and we don't care after that.

-or-

2 - The balls will be within 12.5 and 13.5 to start, and the pressure will be checked and documented at one or more intervals during the game (halftime/each quarter, whatever) and PSI brought into the correct range *by the officials* as needed.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Said rule changes would be a tacit admission that any "fine" was idiotic and was done sole for the purpose of besmirching Kraft's franchise. If so, he should go ballistic..

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Said rule changes would be a tacit admission that any "fine" was idiotic and was done sole for the purpose of besmirching Kraft's franchise. If so, he should go ballistic..

It would and he should. But outside of few people like Reiss and Curran, the media (even here, let alone nationally) will portray him as a whiner trying to deflect people away from misdeeds.

That's the thing you seem to keep missing. Outside of NE fans, no one cares if NE looks bad -- in fact, they like it! So Kraft can go ballistic all he wants, but it won't budge the needle on the narrative.

 

[SacPete1]

I disagree. The NFL statement of Jan 23rd (when they announced the appointment of Wells) makes it pretty clear that the NFL considers Rule 2 Section 1 (which defines the specifications of the ball) as applying throughout the game. @BradyManny, while agreeing with that as far as it goes, believes that's a holdover from the (posited) original, Kensil-led investigation and that with weather in play the NFL might back off that interpretation.

We'll see! I hope he's right.

I've bolded the part that caught my eye. Where is this pretty clear? I don't see anything in either the statement by the NFL on January 23rd or Rule 2 that explicity states that balls are to be "maintained" in accordance with Rule 2 throughout the game.

Here is a part of the quote from the NFL:
"Our office has been conducting an investigation as to whether the footballs used in last Sunday's AFC Championship Game complied with the specifications that are set forth in the playing rules. The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Patriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday's game."

 

[glm]

I've bolded the part that caught my eye. Where is this pretty clear? I don't see anything in either the statement by the NFL on January 23rd or Rule 2 that explicity states that balls are to be "maintained" in accordance with Rule 2 throughout the game.

Here is a part of the quote from the NFL:
"Our office has been conducting an investigation as to whether the footballs used in last Sunday's AFC Championship Game complied with the specifications that are set forth in the playing rules. The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Patriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday's game."

Exactly. Kinda hard to give the Patriots an equipment violation fine when the NFL's already stated they didn't commit such a violation. The investigation is to determine whether the Pats did any foul play after the inspection, not if they committed any equipment violations. There's too much cynicism in this thread.

 

[Clonamery]

I've bolded the part that caught my eye. Where is this pretty clear? I don't see anything in either the statement by the NFL on January 23rd or Rule 2 that explicity states that balls are to be "maintained" in accordance with Rule 2 throughout the game.

Here is a part of the quote from the NFL:
"Our office has been conducting an investigation as to whether the footballs used in last Sunday's AFC Championship Game complied with the specifications that are set forth in the playing rules. The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Patriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday's game."

Maybe they weren't Wilsons or signed by the Anti-Christ.

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/5_2013_Ball.pdf

 

[The Gr8est]

Maybe they weren't Wilsons or signed by the Anti-Christ.

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/5_2013_Ball.pdf

OK, I'm confused. Is the problem that the balls WERE signed by the Anti-Christ, or that they WERE NOT signed by the Anti-Christ?