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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Please list all the years with Josh as OC. Please list all of those where the offense was not a top 5 offense.I respectfully have to disagree. As the offensive coordinator, he's the one coordinating this ****. He's the orchestrator and composer of hot garbage. Every single offense we've had has under performed since he has arrived. Every one. We're almost always facing 2nd and longs. He loves that worthless half back toss that gets stuffed 99% of the time for a loss. He loves that idiotic delayed draw.
Had it with him
That's simply not even close to being true.
One of my McDaniels issues is often I don't have a problem with the playcall more the personnel the Patriots attempt it with.I respectfully have to disagree. As the offensive coordinator, he's the one coordinating this ****. He's the orchestrator and composer of hot garbage. Every single offense we've had has under performed since he has arrived. Every one. We're almost always facing 2nd and longs. He loves that worthless half back toss that gets stuffed 99% of the time for a loss. He loves that idiotic delayed draw.
Had it with him
Please list all the years with Josh as OC. Please list all of those where the offense was not a top 5 offense.
It has already documented in this thread that Belichick uses almost no top draft picks on the offense. So, being a top 5 offense is decidedly NOT underperforming.
Even in 2012 when our offense was annihilating people he was running needlessly gimmicky garbage, and for all the numbers that offense put up that year, a case could be made that it should have put up even more. Then it turned into Jacksonville in the AFC Championship and we couldn't do anything in the red zone.
Look at the San Fran game in 2012 and the Denver game in 2013.
We go up against a great team and Josh's play calling and game plan goes to absolute ****, and the way we won the game (or in San Fran's case made it `Game of the Year` competitive) was by throwing his ideas in the trash can and simply letting Brady sling us back from the jaws of defeat.
Ridley came into tonight averaging 3.4 ypc, and the Chiefs have Dontari Poe sitting on the nose, while the Patriots were playing a completely revamped interior OL. Why would you think pounding the ball up the middle would be the way to go?
Because Vereen has never proved himself to be a legitimate runner. He's a good 3rd down guy and decent receiver but he's not a guy you hand the ball to when you need a tough yard or two.
As far as the Chiefs run D it wasn't great coming into this week. Lamar Miller had a decent game against them and he's not a great back. Poe didn't seem to penetrate that much to me, seemed to be more the edge rushers.
Regardless games like this are where we need a solid running game. Running the ball effectively takes the crowd out of the game and eats up the clock, two major factors that would have helped immensely tonight.
Yes, if you keep moving the goalposts, you'll eventually be right. Here you go: McDaniels isn't perfect, therefore he needs to go.
Problem solved.
In reality, though, McDaniels has been the O.C. for something like 2 or 3 of the top 5 scoring offenses of all time.
So you really think stretch plays to Vereen are the way to go with Justin Houston and Tamba Hali on the edges?Solid running game does not generally equal running the ball at the opponent's best run defender.
I've never called for Belichick to be fired before tonight. But it's time for him to move on.
So you really think stretch plays to Vereen are the way to go with Justin Houston and Tamba Hali on the edges?
It's alarming that we couldn't exploit one of the worst (if not the worst) secondary in the league. Their starting corners are horrible and their Pro Bowl saftey didn't play.Actually, what I'd like to have seen was a lot of wham blocks by the TEs helping to seal Poe off, and running at the outside shoulders of the DEs, which would have led to great play action opportunities against a terrible secondary. That option went by the wayside when the inactives list came out, though. It's clear that Belichick was outcoached this week, on both sides of the ball.
But that's on Belichick, not his coordinators. Andy Reid beat the hell out of Bill Belichick in the coaching ring this week.
What concerned me at the time of the pick was the fact that he's undersized, more than the ACL's that is also a big deal.
It's alarming that we couldn't exploit one of the worst (if not the worst) secondary in the league. Their starting corners are horrible and their Pro Bowl saftey didn't play.
I agree, other than the statement regarding the inactives. Better blocking, including wham blocks could have freed up Edelman, Gronk, and LaFell (with Amendola in the slot). I don't believe that the problem was having 2 receivers that Brady doesn't trust inactive.Actually, what I'd like to have seen was a lot of wham blocks by the TEs helping to seal Poe off, and running at the outside shoulders of the DEs, which would have led to great play action opportunities against a terrible secondary. That option went by the wayside when the inactives list came out, though. It's clear that Belichick was outcoached this week, on both sides of the ball.
But that's on Belichick, not his coordinators. Andy Reid beat the hell out of Bill Belichick in the coaching ring this week. I'm not sure we've seen BB get his ass kicked more thoroughly than this at any time during his tenure here.
It's alarming that we couldn't exploit one of the worst (if not the worst) secondary in the league. Their starting corners are horrible and their Pro Bowl saftey didn't play.