stumeister
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.How upset would you be if the Pats took their first 4 picks and focused on making one element of the team potentially really really good.
Example 4 pics in the;
OL
DL
DB's
Receivers etc.......
This could give potential stability for many years in an important core area...
I would not be that upset, but I do not see the need at DB at all, that group is already one of the two best in the NFL.
How upset would you be if the Pats took their first 4 picks and focused on making one element of the team potentially really really good.
Example 4 pics in the;
OL
DL
DB's
Receivers etc.......
This could give potential stability for many years in an important core area...
By the time you get to that 4th player for the same unit, what are the chances that he's actually going to upgrade the roster? Compared to the chances of an upgrade by using that pick on a different unit that hasn't already added 3 superior players?
1st rounder > Vollmer or at least equal and a swing option and insurance
2nd rounder > Conolly
3rd rounder > Wendell
4th rounder > Cannon
(A) My problem is not Wendell or Connolly per se; it seems that the combination of C Wendell–G Connolly is suboptimal.
(B) The only reason Cannon was available in the 5th round was that he was diagnosed with a treatable form of cancer at the Combine. Without that, he was probably a second-rounder at worst, maybe even a first-rounder.
1st rounder > Vollmer or at least equal and a swing option and insurance
2nd rounder > Conolly
3rd rounder > Wendell
4th rounder > Cannon
1st rounder > Chris Jones
2nd rounder > Tommy Kelly
3rd rounder > Vince Wilfork or at least a training year for the future
4th rounder > Bucannon\Bequette and a long term replacement for Nink
At least at those two position groupings it's not hard to imagine. We've got a lot of players that I'd rather see be moved to depth.
1st rounder > Vollmer or at least equal and a swing option and insurance
2nd rounder > Conolly
3rd rounder > Wendell
4th rounder > Cannon
I'm not convinced on all of these. Even the very first. Take a look at the tackle class and ask how confident you are that the 5th best of them will be an instant upgrade over Sebastian Vollmer -- and how much of an upgrade. Then compare to how much you could upgrade another position at the same point in the draft. And repeat four times.
IMO there is no chance that you'd get the best roster impact four times in a row at the same position/unit.
I'm not convinced on all of these. Even the very first. Take a look at the tackle class and ask how confident you are that the 5th best of them will be an instant upgrade over Sebastian Vollmer -- and how much of an upgrade. Then compare to how much you could upgrade another position at the same point in the draft. And repeat four times.
IMO there is no chance that you'd get the best roster impact four times in a row at the same position/unit.
And there's the assumption that all four prospects hit. How often do the first four prospects of any teams draft class all hit?
IMO there is no chance that you'd get the best roster impact four times in a row at the same position/unit.
I referred to making one element of the team potentially really really good. A unit that you could keep intact that would make an impact. Where you wouldn't have to worry about them as time goes on. Sure there are injury and contract concerns.
Lets be honest do any of our opposing teams worry about one complete element of our team? (Maybe back with Brady, Gronk, Welker and the one whos name I won't mention) Sure there are individual stand outs that they have to game plan for. Are there any real good 1-3 or 4 types in any one of of receivers, OL, DL, LB's or DB's as a group that causes opposing coaches to loose sleep?
If that's what you hope to achieve with picks 29, 62, 93 & 130, I suspect you'll be disappointed. In fact, it would be absolutely extraordinary to come away with 4 good players at ANY position from those picks.
The last draft class that was considered ultra-rich was 2010. Let's take a look at the collections of single-unit talent you could have gotten with those picks that year.
DB: Kyle Wilson, Jerome Murphy, Kevin Thomas, Kam Chancellor
DL: Jerry Hughes, Alex Carrington, Everson Griffen, O'Brien Schofield
OL: Rodger Saffold, Charles Brown, Mike Johnson, Ed Wang
I think it's fair to say that not one of the groups would yield anything close to an elite unit.
I'd say that's exactly what the team did with their defensive backfield in free agency.