Explosive New Hernandez Details

[Joker]

Boy - you are about as dumb as a box of rocks aren't you? Why don't you read all of my posts before you continue and what I have said has been very clear.

Unfortunately, it is becoming equally clear that you don't know how to read.

answer the question, nimrod...are YOU calling Rapoport a liar???... YOU brought it up in black and white...why won't you answer the simple question? I read all your posts and they are quite clear. You are blindly convinced Hernandez is a murderer and you blindly believe all the "reports" even in the face of them being debunked and proven FALSE.

 

[Joker]

There is a difference between a warrant being "issued" and a warrant being "prepared". Once the warrant is prepared, law enforcement can bring it to the magistrate (not the clerk for the magistrate) for it to be approved and then served either in person or by proxy (to an attorney) or by mail.

You guys use this term "issued" like that is suppose to mean something.

There is no such legal definition as a warrant being issued. It is a common term that reporters use.

The same goes for a warrant being "executed". It is another common term that has no direct meaning to a warrant being prepared or served.

YOU have ZERO proof any warrant has EVER BEEN PREPARED!!!! Stop TROLLING!

 

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Default Re: Explosive New Hernandez Details
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Originally Posted by JMC00 View Post
Because a criminal clerk in North Attleboro said one hadn't been signed.
There is no such thing as a "criminal clerk". It is called a "Clerk of Court" and the "Clerk of Court" would have no idea on when a search warrant or an arrest warrant has been prepared, drafted or signed by a judge until it is filed with the Clerk of Court's office and after a judge has signed it.

The Clerk of Court would be the wrong source on when a search or arrest warrant has been prepared or being reviewed by the court magistrate as well.

Who IS the source then? You KNOW there is a source for a FACT???? Show this board ONE shred of evidence from an OFFICIAL SOURCE. You can't because it doesn't exist. You are pinning your whole hater screed on what news outlets erroneously reported from unnamed "sources". Stop trolling, and stop hating on Patriots fans.

Hernandez returns home, 3 search warrants issued | Boston Herald

The official sources, as JMC has pointed out, are Mr. Sturdy and Ms. Clarke. Do yourself a favor - take the day off. And - if you have a problem with me, take it up with the owner of the website. I am sure that he will straighten you out.

 

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Originally Posted by JMC00 View Post
Because a criminal clerk in North Attleboro said one hadn't been signed.
There is no such thing as a "criminal clerk". It is called a "Clerk of Court" and the "Clerk of Court" would have no idea on when a search warrant or an arrest warrant has been prepared, drafted or signed by a judge until it is filed with the Clerk of Court's office and after a judge has signed it.

The Clerk of Court would be the wrong source on when a search or arrest warrant has been prepared or being reviewed by the court magistrate as well.

Who IS the source then? You KNOW there is a source for a FACT???? Show this board ONE shred of evidence from an OFFICIAL SOURCE. You can't because it doesn't exist. You are pinning your whole hater screed on what news outlets erroneously reported from unnamed "sources". Stop trolling, and stop hating on Patriots fans.

Jesus, Joker. He didn't say he knows a good source. He just said that a particular clerk wouldn't be a good source.

 

[belichick010405]

answer the question, nimrod...are YOU calling Rapoport a liar???... YOU brought it up in black and white...why won't you answer the simple question? I read all your posts and they are quite clear. You are blindly convinced Hernandez is a murderer and you blindly believe all the "reports" even in the face of them being debunked and proven FALSE.

Man - are you jackass. Not once have I said that Hernandez is a murderer. I have clearly stated that if he destroyed video surveillance that was evidentiary material connected to the murder of Mr. Lloyd that he could be charged with obstruction of justice because of the spoliation of evidence (in other words destroying or attempting to destroy evidence).

I don't believe that Hernandez is a murderer and I have repeatedly stated that I hope that he is cleared of this so that he can continue to be a part of this team.

But like you and some of the other pom poms, you not only hate those that don't share your foolish opinions or thoughts but when you are confronted with facts, you get defensive as displayed in this latest back and forth.

Rapoport used the wrong term. He is not lying. He is simply using a simplistic term for either the preparation of a warrant or the proper service of a warrant.

 

[Joker]

Hernandez returns home, 3 search warrants issued | Boston Herald

The official sources, as JMC has pointed out, are Mr. Sturdy and Ms. Clarke. Do yourself a favor - take the day off. And - if you have a problem with me, take it up with the owner of the website. I am sure that he will straighten you out.

I already knew that...last week. Take the day off while YOU run amok trolling this board with your outright lies? That article mentions three SEARCH WARRANTS issued. That article states NO ARREST WARRANT has been issued. YOU claim there IS an arrest warrant...WITHOUT A SHRED OF PROOF. Stop trolling.

You state in one post that the Clerk of Courts is NOT an official source and now you USE that same Clerk of Courts as your official source?...it has to be the Haldol...you're nuts.

 

[IllegalContact]

my only question now is whether he can go to Gillette to work out.......at what point is he free to resume his daily routine?

the search warrants were obvious given proximity to the incident......

so what happens if they can't find the weapon, and the 4 of them were so intoxicated that night that nobody remembers where the gun went? and even if they find the gun, what if there are no prints on it? what if there is no way to determine who shot the guy?

 

[Deus Irae]

There seems to be a bit of a back and forth about the warrant issue. maybe this will help some of you. I'll quote the warrant portions only, and a Mod can redact if they feel it's appropriate (but this is public stuff):

(2) Warrant. The District Court may authorize the issuance of a warrant in any case except where the accused is a juvenile less than twelve years of age. Upon the return of an indictment against a defendant, the Superior Court may authorize the issuance of a warrant. The decision to issue a warrant may be based upon the representation of a prosecutor made to the court that the defendant may not appear unless arrested. If a defendant fails to appear in response to a summons or for any reason is not amenable to service, the prosecutor may request that a warrant issue or may resummon the defendant.

(1) Warrant. An arrest warrant issued pursuant to this rule shall be signed by the official issuing it and shall contain the name of the defendant or, if his name is unknown, any name or description by which he can be identified with reasonable certainty. The warrant shall recite the substance of the offense charged in the complaint or indictment. It shall command that the defendant be arrested and brought before the court.

Massachusetts Criminal Procedure Rule 6

 

[belichick010405]

I already knew that...last week. Take the day off while YOU run amok trolling this board with your outright lies? That article mentions three SEARCH WARRANTS issued. That article states NO ARREST WARRANT has been issued. YOU claim there IS an arrest warrant...WITHOUT A SHRED OF PROOF. Stop trolling.

You state in one post that the Clerk of Courts is NOT an official source and now you USE that same Clerk of Courts as your official source?...it has to be the Haldol...you're nuts.

It is not the "Clerk of Courts" - it is called the "Clerk of Court" and the story that was cited, in fact has two verifiable "sources" for the story that the Herald ran.

With that said - if a search or arrest warrant was prepared and not signed by a magistrate or the presiding judge, then they would not be the correct source because the "Clerk of Court" would have no knowledge of the preparation of the warrant because they would only know about the search or arrest warrant after it has been filed with their office. Wow - are you really that stupid?

 

[Get it shawtaay]

The media and fans are taking the presence or absence of a warrant far too seriously.

The authorities are going to move at a deliberate pace while they gather evidence and decide what to do next. Mike Vick was charged two months after his incident for example.

Expecting some kind of 'action' only works when watching 24, where there is no paperwork, evidence is gathered in 10 minutes, and Keifer Sutherland doesn't need to eat, sleep, or go to the bathroom.

 

[Deus Irae]

The media and fans are taking the presence or absence of a warrant far too seriously.

The authorities are going to move at a deliberate pace while they gather evidence and decide what to do next. Mike Vick was charged two months after his incident for example.

Expecting some kind of 'action' only works when watching 24, where there is no paperwork, evidence is gathered in 10 minutes, and Keifer Sutherland doesn't need to eat, sleep, or go to the bathroom.

The issue with the warrant isn't whether Hernandez is going down. The issue with the warrant is how badly the media screwed the pooch.

 

[nowayback]

Nice to see Patriot fans giving the press the benefit of the doubt but not AH.

AS the press had always been fair to the Pats, and AH had been trouble since the day he arrived here

 

[Joker]

Man - are you jackass. Not once have I said that Hernandez is a murderer. I have clearly stated that if he destroyed video surveillance that was evidentiary material connected to the murder of Mr. Lloyd that he could be charged with obstruction of justice because of the spoliation of evidence (in other words destroying or attempting to destroy evidence).

I don't believe that Hernandez is a murderer and I have repeatedly stated that I hope that he is cleared of this so that he can continue to be a part of this team.and then you go back to waging your one man war on him using erroneous reports and sources that don't even exist. YOU are a plain troll

But like you and some of the other pom pomsso that's it, the ol' "you homers!!!!!" attack eh, clown, you not only hate those that don't share your foolish opinionswhat foolish opinions???provide proof or thoughts but when you are confronted with facts,what facts?YOU went beserk attributing a tweet from Rapoport to me!!! You 're plain insane and now your trying to weasel your lying way out of it you get defensive as displayed in this latest back and forth.dyam right I'm defensive when a GD'ed scummy troll attributes an outright lie TO me, you freak.

Rapoport used the wrong term. He is not lying. He is simply using a simplistic term for either the preparation of a warrant or the proper service of a warrant. he tweeted nothing of the sort..read the tweet again, nutbag...

Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet

Spoke to the clerk at Attleboro District Court. She told me no arrest warrant was filed for Aaron Hernandez. One may come. But it hasn't yet
10:26 AM - 21 Jun 2013

what term besides "ARREST WARRANT" is the correct one, Spinny? what is the complex way to ask if there is a warrant? Utter bull to weakly try to mask your complete lack of ANYTHING cogent proving a warrant was asked for.

 

[Joker]

oh, and BTW you trolling jackazz...you seriously want to play semantics with me? Clerk of Court? You try to use Courts as some sort of deflection? Clerk of Court, Clerk Of Courts...WTF difference does this make? I hope you ARE saying there is no such thing as a Clerk of Courts because I have a simple google link here with 22 million 900 thousand results that say there is...

https://www.google.com/search?q=cle...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

 

[belichick010405]

Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet

Spoke to the clerk at Attleboro District Court. She told me no arrest warrant was filed for Aaron Hernandez. One may come. But it hasn't yet
10:26 AM - 21 Jun 2013

what term besides "ARREST WARRANT" is the correct one, Spinny? what is the complex way to ask if there is a warrant? Utter bull to weakly try to mask your complete lack of ANYTHING cogent proving a warrant was asked for.

"Arrest Warrant" would be the correct term. Your use of "warrant" could mean a number of things. "Asking for a warrant" is not a process in the preparation, approval from a magistrate or a judge, and the proper service of a "warrant".

I heard that your 5th grade teacher called to help you with remedial English.

You should head back to summer school.

 

[belichick010405]

oh, and BTW you trolling jackazz...you seriously want to play semantics with me? Clerk of Court? You try to use Courts as some sort of deflection? Clerk of Court, Clerk Of Courts...WTF difference does this make? I hope you ARE saying there is no such thing as a Clerk of Courts because I have a simple google link here with 22 million 900 thousand results that say there is...

https://www.google.com/search?q=cle...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Thats' nice. Let me know when Google (pardon my use of a trademark name) is a part of the Massachusetts Judicial System.

 

[Joker]

"Arrest Warrant" would be the correct term. Your use of "warrant" could mean a number of things. "Asking for a warrant" is not a process in the preparation, approval from a magistrate or a judge, and the proper service of a "warrant".

I heard that your 5th grade teacher called to help you with remedial English.

You should head back to summer school.

first off...NONE Of this quoted stuff is MY use of anything. WHY do you keep insisting I made this tweet? I didn't ask if there was an ARREST WARRANT...Rapoport did. Now, YOU reply that "arrest warrant" IS the correct term. A few posts back YOU post THIS

Rapoport used the wrong term. He is not lying. He is simply using a simplistic term for either the preparation of a warrant or the proper service of a warrant.

so far we have YOU arguing that arrest warrant is not the correct term but that arrest warrant IS the correct term....it's gotta be drugs...try N.A. You CAN quote me on THAT.

 

[belichick010405]

first off...NONE Of this quoted stuff is MY use of anything. WHY do you keep insisting I made this tweet? I didn't ask if there was an ARREST WARRANT...Rapoport did. Now, YOU reply that "arrest warrant" IS the correct term. A few posts back YOU post THIS

Rapoport used the wrong term. He is not lying. He is simply using a simplistic term for either the preparation of a warrant or the proper service of a warrant.

so far we have YOU arguing that arrest warrant is not the correct term but that arrest warrant IS the correct term....it's gotta be drugs...try N.A. You CAN quote me on THAT.

Joker - I am done with this back and forth with you. Do yourself a favor, go take some Midol. BTW - that is a nice mugshot of yourself.

 

[Rob0729]

first off...NONE Of this quoted stuff is MY use of anything. WHY do you keep insisting I made this tweet? I didn't ask if there was an ARREST WARRANT...Rapoport did. Now, YOU reply that "arrest warrant" IS the correct term. A few posts back YOU post THIS

Rapoport used the wrong term. He is not lying. He is simply using a simplistic term for either the preparation of a warrant or the proper service of a warrant.

so far we have YOU arguing that arrest warrant is not the correct term but that arrest warrant IS the correct term....it's gotta be drugs...try N.A. You CAN quote me on THAT.

Speaking of Rappaport getting stuff wrong, he has gotten quite a bit wrong with this story. He incorrectly ran a story that the Pats could not get off the hook for Hernandez's guaranteed money because of this incident because they did not include the clause that would make guaranteed money non-guaranteed for missing games. Except he failed to realize that guaranteed money is not guaranteed for personal conduct in the new CBA and if the Pats cut Hernandez for conduct detrimental to the team, they are off the hook for the guaranteed money without that clause.

Yet another example of a rush to be first to the story than be right. So the story is out there that the Pats screwed up on their contract with Hernandez which is now the prevalent belief. But the reality, they are fairly well protected under the CBA for this incident.

 

[West Philly Patriot]

Where is the poster who was literally betting their life that AH would be arrested last week? His/her's words not mine. Just shows how much people have allowed these reports to influence their views of the investigation and AH.