* Ye Olde 2013 Mock Draft Thread!! *

[EwanSellars]

that would be a very solid draft for us maybe not 2 Cb's in the 7th round though maybe a receiver, TE or OL too develop but apart from that id be very happy with that draft

 

[ATippett56]

that would be a very solid draft for us maybe not 2 Cb's in the 7th round though maybe a receiver, TE or OL too develop but apart from that id be very happy with that draft

You do realize that the New England Patriots will potentially have six tight ends under contract prior to the 2013 NFL Draft:

Rob Gronkowski
Aaron Hernandez
Daniel Fells
Jake Ballard
Brad Herman
Michael Hoomanawanui (RFA)

 

[mayoclinic]

You do realize that the New England Patriots will potentially have six tight ends under contract prior to the 2013 NFL Draft:

Rob Gronkowski
Aaron Hernandez
Daniel Fells
Jake Ballard
Brad Herman
Michael Hoomanawanui (RFA)

Sounds like we need to add a few more.

 

[ATippett56]

Sounds like we need to add a few more.

Post #418 covered that contingency:

2013 UDFAs (training camp fodder/potential 53 man roster sleepers)

Nick Kasa, TE - Colorado
Ryan Griffin, TE - Connecticut
Ben Cotton, TE - Nebraska (blocking tight end)

 

[EwanSellars]

forgot about herman and ballard haha is ballard on IR i havent seen him all season

 

[kennyb]

they pick up an extra 3rd, 2 4th, 3 5ths

2. stedman bailey / cobi hamilton WR

3. Margus Hunt DL
3. Phillip Thomas FS

4. Darius Slay CB
4. Gerald Hodges LB PSU

5. Xavier Nixon OT Florida
5. Rodney Smith WR FSU
5. Braxton Cave C Notre Dame

6. Zac Stacy RB Vandy

 

[EwanSellars]

kenny where are you getting all those extra picks

 

[kennyb]

kenny where are you getting all those extra picks

from their 1st.

 

[patsfaninpa]

from their 1st.

We'll prob be picking 30-32. You do realize we'll only be getting a two and a three to move down. Let's be a little more realistic in our trade scenarios. Could move way down in 2nd and just get a 2 this year and a 1 in 2014. Like we did in 07 and 11 drafts. But, we aren't getting that many picks for moving out of a late first.

 

[Sciz]

They could get more/better picks than that for trading down, but that'd have to be like 5 trades down or something like that.

 

[kennyb]

We'll prob be picking 30-32. You do realize we'll only be getting a two and a three to move down. Let's be a little more realistic in our trade scenarios. Could move way down in 2nd and just get a 2 this year and a 1 in 2014. Like we did in 07 and 11 drafts. But, we aren't getting that many picks for moving out of a late first.

from a draft value chart it's about right. I have them picking up a 3rd, 2 4ths and 3 5s.

It would be hard to do though, most likely.

A draft where they pick only 3 players isn't that interesting. Plus it puts more risk on the first pick not being a bust. The goal of these drafts is to pick players who aren't valued that highly but are still good.

 

[EwanSellars]

did anyone else think the defense looked very very good today. Everything was clicking and 7 sacks was very nice. I also hope we trade our 1st round for a 1st next year and a third or late second this year. there are a couple players i already want from next year. maybe we could trade our first round to a team that is decently bad and get a first rounder next year that could be a lot higher maybe someone like the raiders would like to add another 1st or maybe arizona to add wilson or bray

 

[patsfaninpa]

from a draft value chart it's about right. I have them picking up a 3rd, 2 4ths and 3 5s.

It would be hard to do though, most likely.

A draft where they pick only 3 players isn't that interesting. Plus it puts more risk on the first pick not being a bust. The goal of these drafts is to pick players who aren't valued that highly but are still good.

Any teams have 2 fourths and 3 fifths? No. If you trade down from 30 to 50 the pick your dealing is 620 points. The 50th pick is 400 and their pick in round 3 is 180. If you can squeeze an extra 5 out of them you'd be lucky.


Great Blue North Draft Report

 

[kennyb]

Any teams have 2 fourths and 3 fifths? No. If you trade down from 30 to 50 the pick your dealing is 620 points. The 50th pick is 400 and their pick in round 3 is 180. If you can squeeze an extra 5 out of them you'd be lucky.


Great Blue North Draft Report

I didn't give the pats an extra 2nd. They already have one pick in the 2nd, and that's all I gave them.

Mid 3rd round is about 200 points. Mid 4th round is 80 points. Mid 5th is about 35 (IIRC). So the 600 point first rounder is worth about a mid 3rd, 3 4ths, and 2 5ths. Realistic? Not really, but I'm going to run with it anyway. 600 is actually greater than 200 + 3* 80 + 2* 35. 600 compared to 510.

No teams have that, but it's possible to trade more than once. They don't have to trade one pick for 5. They can make multiple trades. They've actually done that before.

 

[patsfaninpa]

I didn't give the pats an extra 2nd. They already have one pick in the 2nd, and that's all I gave them.

Mid 3rd round is about 200 points. Mid 4th round is 80 points. Mid 5th is about 35 (IIRC). So the 600 point first rounder is worth about a mid 3rd, 3 4ths, and 2 5ths. Realistic? Not really, but I'm going to run with it anyway. 600 is actually greater than 200 + 3* 80 + 2* 35. 600 compared to 510.

No teams have that, but it's possible to trade more than once. They don't have to trade one pick for 5. They can make multiple trades. They've actually done that before.

Gotcha. I thought you had us taking two wr's in the 2nd.

 

[IllegalContact]

without playing draft pick trades, here is what I would do....

1 - DT Jesse Williams - it is the interior DL turn to add some high end youth as it has not happened for awhile, and as great as wilfork is, there is currently no answer if he can not suit up. this is the biggest hole on the team right now.

2 - WR ryan swope - this guy comes out of college with complete route knowledge and is very productive regardless of who was throwing to him. Edelman can't be counted on because of his health, and will never be the answer in the post welker day.

3 - OT....I'm not as knowledgeable when it comes to the OL's yet, but figuring Vollmer's status, this needs to be addressed

late picks? another OL and DB

don't needs:
TE - just don't need
DE - nobody's going to beat out Justin Francis.......unless the pats find another UDFA
SS - not in the draft anyway....bringing in Laron Landry would be my optimal here

 

[Jimke]

Sounds like we need to add a few more.

Could Justin Francis be the pass rusher you desire? He looked
awesome last night.

 

[manxman2601]

Could Justin Francis be the pass rusher you desire? He looked
awesome last night.

Not to put him down because he played very well, but most of our sacks were coverage sacks last night. That's not a criticism - I think that's exactly how BB wants to play; a defense that is an holistic one, interdependent and not relying on being overly aggressive in any one phase. I don't think we'll ever see a Jason Babin type here - someone who rushes the passer and nothing else.

 

[IllegalContact]

Not to put him down because he played very well, but most of our sacks were coverage sacks last night. That's not a criticism - I think that's exactly how BB wants to play; a defense that is an holistic one, interdependent and not relying on being overly aggressive in any one phase. I don't think we'll ever see a Jason Babin type here - someone who rushes the passer and nothing else.

Justin Francis has been very visible (for good reasons) every time he has been given an opportunity....I think a full year in the program will prove quite beneficial as he lacked some athleticism in college....out of the DE's the pats have, I believe him to currently be the hardest worker.

don't forget trevor scott, also.....

I think that you're not going to 'get better' at the position (DE) without using another high pick, and I think there are bigger needs (DT) on the line

 

[manxman2601]

Justin Francis has been very visible (for good reasons) every time he has been given an opportunity....I think a full year in the program will prove quite beneficial as he lacked some athleticism in college....out of the DE's the pats have, I believe him to currently be the hardest worker.

don't forget trevor scott, also.....

I think that you're not going to 'get better' at the position (DE) without using another high pick, and I think there are bigger needs (DT) on the line

I think the very fact that DT is such a rotational position and not an every down one that I don't think it's a high draft need unless there's a blue chipper available like Jesse Williams.