NFL investigating Saints for placing bounties on players(merged X2)

[ctpatsfan77]

hmmmmm.

The threat of a lockout following the season remained - months later it would happen - and, as a result, almost every player on both the Vikings and Saints stepped onto the playing field and held a finger in the air to express their solidarity as a member of the players' union.

One player ignored it at all.

Standing on the sideline with his back turned was Favre.​

OT: PatsFans needs a quote botton. How the heck do I quote?

Use QUOTE and /QUOTE surrounded by brackets []. Or use the fourth button from the end in the row above the text box (the row that starts "B I U").

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

What scum...

 

[JDot]

Use QUOTE and /QUOTE surrounded by brackets []. Or use the fourth button from the end in the row above the text box (the row that starts "B I U").

Thanks ctpatsfan77. But honestly the bolded has me doing this..

To be fair I have had a few wobbly pops. Now the PHP icon seems to work. Either way thanks, but I am a little to, how do I say this, inebriated.....

 

[SEA_Pat]

This is just the beginning. As only one poster noted previously, this means that all those involved have likely violated federal tax law by not reporting income they earned. Thus, the Feds will investigate and find out ALL of the instances where payments were made. So look forward to months of discussion about whether this hit or that was deliberately malicious.

This is going to be a very miserable experience for the Saints and their fans, and ultimately for fans of football. With the concussion thing happening, all the talk and press is going to be going on ad nauseum about what a terrible, dangerous and damaging game this is, while the lawyers will be drumming up business among any player injured against the Saints.

Having said this...there is not even a shadow of a doubt that anyone involved should be suspended and severe penalties should be handed out to the team.

 

[Salva135]

This is just the beginning. As only one poster noted previously, this means that all those involved have likely violated federal tax law by not reporting income they earned. Thus, the Feds will investigate and find out ALL of the instances where payments were made.

What? How is this considered income? They could easily be classified as "gifts" from one employee to another. I've already read reports of just about every team, including the Pats, having pools for "first interception, fumble recovery," etc. Going after these transfers seems like an enormous waste of Fed time. Might as well investigate every office in America to find out who won those March Madness pools and didn't report it to the IRS.

 

[tuckeverlasting]

What? How is this considered income? They could easily be classified as "gifts" from one employee to another. I've already read reports of just about every team, including the Pats, having pools for "first interception, fumble recovery," etc. Going after these transfers seems like an enormous waste of Fed time. Might as well investigate every office in America to find out who won those March Madness pools and didn't report it to the IRS.

tips are gifts and ask any bartender or waiter, gifts definitely get reported. i don't know anyone who wants an irs audit and they do them for a lot less than $10,000. the feds will definitely get involved in this.

 

[Joker]

They are saying that the Owner's Meeting in later this month will discuss the punishment for this activity.

Apparently it is going to be handed down by the league between Early April and Draft Day.

Oh...so....the Patriots get hammered unilaterally by an EX-EMPLOYEE of their nearest competitor on the opening day game with said competitor, get savagely fined and stripped of a penultimate draft choice, followed by years of silence by this cretin in the face of vicious attacks on the Patriots organization by a rabid sports press corp, yet NOW, faced with THIS mushrooming scandal, the owners collectively will discuss and recommend action....uh, excuse me, but where was THIS latitude when Ratdell went all undercover green mongo on the Patriots and OUR fanbase (by association)?

This is the first major pothole facing ol' Roger The Rat Dodger since the labor agreement was reached. For me as a Patriots fan, I CANNOT wait to see what this mutt does/does not do in this case.

That being said,I take no pleasure in the Saints troubles. It's a very unfortunate issue, and one that isn't easily rectifiable in view of the nature of the predatory sports press in this country.

 

[pherein]

The Patriots took pictures from the wrong spot in the stadium. The Saints were doing things that could have destroyed careers and interfered with the quality of life of fellow players. Their Super Bowl title may be a product of deliberately injuring the opposing quarterback in a playoff game.

I'm not sure why this is supposed to be about protecting the Saints fan base. It should be about dealing with those responsible for this, and that allegedly goes all the way from players to coach to GM and, to an extent, to the owner. That's essentially the entire organization.

I can't even believe what I am hearing. Your damn right we tried to hit Farve, Warner and the rest. Our defense was suppose to put them on their ass and not care about what injuries the QB or players got because of it. Their is not a defense in the NFL that does not do the same, we are no different than NE.
If the Patriots defense could have clocked Manning, they would have more than happy to do so, and the fans would have supported it. This is not a very good depiction of what happened.

 

[pherein]

All I have to say is we were warned by NE fans what would happen if we ever became a good team. They said we would be put under a microscope by the media. We are really not surprised NE was right.

 

[jcdavey]

All I have to say is we were warned by NE fans what would happen if we ever became a good team. They said we would be put under a microscope by the media. We are really not surprised NE was right.

what a load of crap

you broke the rules and had a bounty system to award cash for injuring players

as chris kluwe said , the saints players and coaches who participated in it are pieces of ****

own it, because it's fact....gregg williams mother ******* admitted it!


stop with the darren sharper impression and just own your team's shame.




or be weak and blame it on everyone but your own team.....

 

[Joker]

We know Wrecks Cryan runs the same kind of pool for Jets defensive players...yet you'll NEVER hear about it officially...and if you do, Ryan will just feign ignorance like he did with the Sal Alosi "orchestrated sideline tripping" cheating scandal...yes, the price of success, outside of the NY media fawnfest (see Jeremy Lin),is vicious media attacks via all sports news venues by totally ignorant, self serving personalities bent on only one thing, THEIR face time and personal success.

 

[Joker]

what a load of crap

you broke the rules and had a bounty system to award cash for injuring players

as chris kluwe said , the saints players and coaches who participated in it are pieces of ****

own it, because it's fact....gregg williams mother ******* admitted it!


stop with the darren sharper impression and just own your team's shame.




or be weak and blame it on everyone but your own team.....

heh....hypocrite much, Mr. Roid Scandal Epicenter? why don't you and Merrimutt share a few dozen syringes and kick back in your schadenfreudish splendor...

 

[DarrylS]

John Clayton, cannot figure out how he rose to such prominence, is now officially declaring that this is worse than spygate... as "no one got hurt except teams lost close games".. where the f.. did that come from. It is one of those if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth..

"As bad as the infamous New England Patriots' Spygate case was in 2007, no one got hurt except teams that lost close games. Placing a bounty on opponents is far worse," Clayton writes.

"To have a coach broker hits that are intended to damage the health of opponents can't, and won't, be tolerated. That's why I believe the penalty for this NFL crime will exceed the $750,000 fines and loss of a first-round draft pick that the Patriots were penalized in 2007. The Saints traded their first-round pick to the Patriots to move up to draft running back Mark Ingram in 2011. I wouldn't be surprised if the league takes away a second-round or third-round pick this year and a first-rounder next year."

 

[Angry Man]

That being said,I take no pleasure in the Saints troubles. It's a very unfortunate issue, and one that isn't easily rectifiable in view of the nature of the predatory sports press in this country.

Exactly. It's not just the reputation of the Saints that is now damaged from this. Its the league as a whole that's now tainted from this as well.

 

[jcdavey]

heh....hypocrite much, Mr. Roid Scandal Epicenter? why don't you and Merrimutt share a few dozen syringes and kick back in your schadenfreudish splendor...

i own any and all situations when the proof is beyond a shadow of a doubt

 

[jcdavey]

Exactly. It's not just the reputation of the Saints that is now damaged from this. Its the league as a whole that's now tainted from this as well.

very true, entire nfl gets hurt by this crap the ******ed saints let get out.....

 

[Joker]

The national media strategy is clear...tie THIS N.O. story to "Spygate!!!",beat the dead horse into a blood stained blotch on the pavement, and revel in the lust of repeated attacks on both organizations with sanctimonious "suggestions" for sanctions.

Can't wait for Jason Whitlock's bigoted column, in tandem with this "Sherman" look-alike moron, Clayton's piece of garbage ....why no one hasn't just punched this dweeb in the mouth for running his yap with such impunity is a mystery....

 

[BradyFTW!]

All I have to say is we were warned by NE fans what would happen if we ever became a good team. They said we would be put under a microscope by the media. We are really not surprised NE was right.

I halfway agree with you. What the Saints allegedly did was pretty bad, and some heads (Gregg Williams, first and foremost, and maybe Loomis as well) will probably have to roll to make it right.

That said, the media explosion and punishment that's sure to follow will undoubtedly be overdone and incredibly heavy-handed. It's a genuine story during a slow part of the news cycle, which means that it's about to become an enormous story. Have gotta at least own up to the fact that the Saints ****ed up pretty badly, but that might be easier to do since the primary culprit is gone anyways.

 

[jcdavey]

The national media strategy is clear...tie THIS N.O. story to "Spygate!!!",beat the dead horse into a blood stained blotch on the pavement, and revel in the lust of repeated attacks on both organizations with sanctimonious "suggestions" for sanctions.

Can't wait for Jason Whitlock's bigoted column, in tandem with this "Sherman" look-alike moron, Clayton's piece of garbage ....why no one hasn't just punched this dweeb in the mouth for running his yap with such impunity is a mystery....

some of you seem to enjoy the attention more than the journalists giving it........

 

[jcdavey]

According to a report from Don Banks of SI.com, Saints G.M. Mickey Loomis got caught lying to both Saints owner Tom Benson and those conducting the NFL’s internal investigation of the Saints’ bounty program.

Loomis reportedly was asked about the Saints’ bounties in 2010 and denied knowing anything about it. He then ignored Benson’s orders to discontinue to program if it existed.

“When informed earlier this year of the new information, Mr. Benson advised league staff that he had directed his general manager, Mickey Loomis, to ensure that any bounty program be discontinued immediately. The evidence shows that Mr. Loomis did not carry out Mr. Benson’s direction,” the league’s internal report reads via Banks.

Loomis could pay price for lying to league, owner | ProFootballTalk



don't really see how loomis escapes this ........


yeah but it's all in the media's head, saints fans.......