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Re: New name for the SAINTS??

I for one refuse to pig pile on Saints fans.
 
Re: New name for the SAINTS??

I for one refuse to pig pile on Saints fans.

Okay, I'll have to come up with another one. :D
 
Being Favre, he actually took photos to show the effects.

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WTF!!!! That is crazy.
 
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Sweet Christmas, is that a real Tweet? What on Earth is the NFLPA going to do to anyone?

They are talking about NFL players
 
Anything short of suspensions, $1,000,000 and two first rounders is a whitewash, IMO.

Boo-hoo, Katrina, boo-hoo.

I wonder whether New Orleans will be treated with kid gloves because of the horrors of Katrina -- some of the most famous of which happened in and around the Superdome.
 
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I for one refuse to pig pile on Saints fans.
Given the sensitivity of some factions of the Patriots fan base in regards to Spygate, how quick some have begun throwing stones from our glass house.
 
The next objective and/or intelligent statement that you make in this forum will be the first.

:trolls:

If we don't reply, they go away.
 
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Re: New name for the SAINTS??

I'll take a pass on that.

3 reasons:

1. It's ignorant when other teams pigeon hole the Pats as cheaters for Spygate

2. Saints fans aren't even in the top 25 of fanbases who harp on the "Cheatriots" horsecrap.

3. I refuse to disrespect Phereins team like that. He is a class act as a visiting poster, when the overwhelming majority of rival team posters are trolling like its closing time at the club..... I'd take him over half the posters on this board.
 
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Earlier on you suggested that we didn't know what was on the tapes. If you were as objective and intelligent as you claim, you'd know that we do know what was on the tapes, because Jay Glazer leaked footage of one of them. It showed sideline, scoreboard, line of scrimmage. And I heard something about cheerleaders' asses.

And Herm Edwards waving. :singing:
 
I'm pretty sure the media will make this a bigger story than what it is. I think quite a few teams besides the Saints have "bounties", they were just better at hiding them. I don't remember the Saints being a "dirty" team. The only way to know for sure is to see if there are an abnormal number of injuries when teams play the Saints.

(I do not endorse bounties. Dirty players will be dirty players.)

I think it's starting to come out today that a lot of opposing players and the League Office disagree with you on that one.
 
I will go a step farther and say it is also a distinct lack of understanding what a bounty program can do to gain a competitive edge.

Let's use a hypothetical here:

Say the Jets have a bounty program. Say they play the Pats in week 2 and they have a $100k bounty to take Brady out for the season. If someone actually collects that bounty, the Jets gain a monumemental competitive advantage which ten thousand Spygate tapes couldn't achieve.

to me it's also akin to betting on your own team ala pete rose

i'd be all in favor for lifetime bans over this


no problem with me at all
 
Boo-hoo, Katrina, boo-hoo.

I wonder whether New Orleans will be treated with kid gloves because of the horrors of Katrina -- some of the most famous of which happened in and around the Superdome.

The aftermath of Katrina was awful and FEMA got and deserved a big Fail for all of it...but, I am so sick and tired of having to listen to the subsequent "feel good" stories about the Saints, who essentially exploited the disaster to boost ticket sales and their local brand.
 
Re: New name for the SAINTS??

I'll take a pass on that.

3 reasons:

1. It's ignorant when other teams pigeon hole the Pats as cheaters for Spygate

2. Saints fans aren't even in the top 25 of fanbases who harp on the "Cheatriots" horsecrap.

3. I refuse to disrespect Phereins team like that. He is a class act as a visiting poster, when the overwhelming majority of rival team posters are trolling like its closing time at the club..... I'd take him over half the posters on this board.

I agree, but i also secretly hope that the remaining 30 teams in teh NFL get caught doing stuff they arent so that everybody shuts up :mad:
 
Re: New name for the SAINTS??

Put ME down for "Screw Lowering OurSelves. We're PATRIOTS Fans."
 
So, who do you guys think was the Saints player/coach who ratted?

From Peter Kings story that Rico linked to..

Goodell said "significant and credible'' new information was forthcoming late
in 2011..

Was there anybody cut or a coach not offered a new contract???
 
Earlier on you suggested that we didn't know what was on the tapes. If you were as objective and intelligent as you claim, you'd know that we do know what was on the tapes, because Jay Glazer leaked footage of one of them. It showed sideline, scoreboard, line of scrimmage. And I heard something about cheerleaders' asses.

Yeah, that's way worse than intentionally injuring dudes.

Why are you and others engaging this guy? He wants the attention. Just ignore him and he will go away.

:trolls: !!!
 
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Peter King story:

"Early indications late Friday afternoon were that the sanctions against the Saints and their former defensive coordinator who the league said administered the bounties, Gregg Williams, will be severe. The league said the penalties could include suspensions, fines and loss of draft choices -- the latter of which could be particularly damaging to the Saints, who do not own a first-round pick this year. Their first choice will be late in the second round, the 59th overall ... unless Goodell takes the pick away."
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"There's little doubt the penalties on the Saints will be worse than what the league did to the Patriots for the Spygate scandal in 2007. "
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"Payton, the league says, was not "a direct participant'' in the bounty program but was aware of it and did nothing to stop it."
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"• Players pooled their own money to fund the bounty club, and players were paid $1,500 if a foe was knocked out of the game, and $1,000 if an opponent was carted off the field.
• Between 22 and 27 players contributed to the bounty pool over a three-year period, with amounts guaranteed if a certain opposing player was knocked out of the game."

so basically payton was aware, like let's say joe paterno was aware

i wonder if payton will be fired or suspended from the league for a year.....hmmm
 
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Given the sensitivity of some factions of the Patriots fan base in regards to Spygate, how quick some have begun throwing stones from our glass house.

I can only speak for myself, so I will.

My point is quite simple: if the penalty for a systematic (i.e., endorsed by team coaches) program that broke league rules but, according to the League's own statement when the penalty was imposed, did NOT produce an on-field advantage, was $750,000 in fines and a First Round draft pick, I only argue that the penalty for a systematic program that removed opposing players from the field and created an on-field advantage should be far greater.

I don't think I'm throwing any stones from my glass house by asking that another house be treated in a proportional manner.
 
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