Will New 'Rules' Lead to a New Deal For Mankins?

[Joker]

Can"t we all just get a lawn?

stop stealing my material....

 

[supafly]

stop stealing my material....

It's terribly contagious

 

[Ring 6]

This makes me laugh.

Lawn Mower - job and career information, median salary, and schools

The "What abilities make a good lawn mower" section is a riot

 

[spacecrime]

Geez dude, not sure what you went to college for but I know lawn mowers that make that kind of money. No loans needed. If you "followed your heart" into a low-paying job go punch your guidance councilor in the head please! Sooner or later you will hate it, you might as well get paid well. Mankins is an elite athlete, chances are you werent picked first in gym class so its time you get over it.

So you are from Quincy. You have three months a year to make your $60,000 from mowing lawns.

$20,000 a month, $5,000 a week, $1000 a day.

Hard to picture someone paying you $1000 a day to mow lawns, even harder to picture being self-employed and paying yourself $1000 a day after equipment, insurance, gas, double SSA paypments, and the other accoutrements required of those who try to to make some $$$ self-employed.

 

[Ring 6]

We could all get along very easily if some guys like that poster didn't always have such negative things to say about the team, anything he doesn't agree with, and life in general.

Arguing the point that my choosing a college education and a comfortable career, instead of just choosing no education-- so that I could 'mow lawns' and exceed a 60,000 salary by doing so, is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

Not to mention the insulting and demeaning manner in which he communicated his "thought".

 

[Ring 6]

on the other hand, if you are making $625,000/week, and the guy in the next cubicle, who is not half as good as you, is making $900,000/week, you would be wondering what the hell happened.


we need to sign Mankins.

Who not half as good as Mankins is making $14 mill a year?

 

[spacecrime]

Can"t we all just get a lawn?

You owe me twenty bucks for the keyboard I just spit a mouthful of coffee onto

 

[Bostonian1962]

Nice article. I love Bauer's repeated use of the word travesty to describe the patriots only paying him $10 million dollars this year.

ten million dollars is a travesty? Are these guys out of touch with reality or what?

I had the same thought. I see where the Patriots offered him between $45M - $50M, and then I see his agent say what a travesty it is what the Patriots have done to him, and it really kinda makes me sick. I disagree with the line in Wall Street that "greed is good". Greed is making Mankins NOT look very good at all.

 

[italia44]

I hope they can come to terms but I'm not holding my breath. The cap is going down, not up, as it has been reset at less than what the adjusted cap was two years ago in the last capped season. The team was offering him a deal that averaged closer to $6.5M per his agent, $7M+ in new money. He seemed to be dug in on averages and wanted something that topped $8M. They do genuinely seem to want him but not at any cost. They will have 30 days or so to get a long term deal done with him under the tag before that window closes (to sign tagged players to long term deals). The next time it opens he will have turned 30. The LT he's played his pro career to date with has one foot out the door here and possibly career wise at 33.

Two key factors that will impact negotiations are whether or not as a named plaintiff he gets an exemption from the tag in future and whether or not the tag itself will be recalculated if as reported the owners pushed for and got a split of OL by position for tender purposes into OT/OG/C under the new CBA. Knowing how Logan over reacts to perceived insults I could imagine recalculation of his tag leading to another ego driven public temper tantrum... And when you frame your demands as he has that ultimately reflects not principle but ego.

No matter how special you are saying we want to sign you and keep you here doesn't mean we promise to give you whatever it is you think you deserve even if you are the very best player at your position. Just ask Brady. The most recent deal he signed averaged out to be a few dollars more than the incomparable Eli Manning...and is one that Eli's brother will trump shortly by all measures and Drew Brees may also trump. When anyone in their right mind knows Brady should lead the pack at this juncture. And here Logan isn't merely competing with other LG's, he's competing with a future LT and a RT and a NT and an ILB at equally if not historically more significant positions who are his teamates. So his status amongst LG's league wide isn't the only pecking order he needs to be slotted into.

That other teams will overpay or pay a premium has never meant this team will. They are in fine shape cap and cash and roster wise even amid chaos for a reason. Their adherence to a disciplined, rational approach to teambuilding and the persuit of value. The other being Brady's continued willingness to work within their system...including financially.

Mo.....This makes me think that you should be talking to Mankins.......and Obama and Boehner,as well.:rocker:

 

[VJCPatriot]

The article says 6.5 million annual offer was made:

Bauer said that he and Mankins were looking for a deal commensurate with New Orleans’ Jahri Evans, which pays him $8.1 million per season. Instead, the Pats final offer to Mankins reportedly came in at $6.5 million annually.

That is admittedly a big difference from 8m per year. But I'm still not sure I feel that Mankins is worth Evans money or is as good as him. I think a 7/50m deal with a sizable signing bonus, say 20m, would be more than fair. Obviously I'm not in Mankins head so I don't know what he sees as fair, but I think some deal in that neighborhood should get it done. It would be nice to solidify the line by signing Mankins longterm without breaking the bank.

Your point is even more credible when you consider the Pats long-term offer last year, of what? Approximately 8 million per? Since that would have likely made him the 2nd highest paid guard in the NFL, I certainly agree that 'travesty' is a very deep stretch.

We all appreciate the hard work and punishment that Logan takes, and I certainly hope that he stays, but when you turn down 500k per game, and are currently "undecided" on the 625k per game (approx.franchise numbers), you are not being treated that unfairly.

I just wish that they'd just actually cave a little bit this time, as it seemed that last yr they were reasonably close to what he wanted. I don't know if it's more per yr, another added yr to the deal, or a larger guaranteed amount, but at this point I hope it gets done. I'm tired of hearing about his 'travesty.'

Oh and for those who are still mad about Mankins previous public comments, he has already apologized to Mr. Kraft and that apology has been accepted so it appears to be water under the bridge now and should not pose an obstacle to a deal being made.

However, Kraft came out and shot that down, and admitted that he had spoken directly to Mankins. He even admitted that Mankins had apologized for his earlier comments, which seemed to be a positive sign.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

The article says 6.5 million annual offer was made:

Bauer said that he and Mankins were looking for a deal commensurate with New Orleans’ Jahri Evans, which pays him $8.1 million per season. Instead, the Pats final offer to Mankins reportedly came in at $6.5 million annually.

That is admittedly a big difference from 8m per year. But I'm still not sure I feel that Mankins is worth Evans money or is as good as him. I think a 7/50m deal with a sizable signing bonus, say 20m, would be more than fair. Obviously I'm not in Mankins head so I don't know what he sees as fair, but I think some deal in that neighborhood should get it done. It would be nice to solidify the line by signing Mankins longterm without breaking the bank.

Mankins is a very principled person, its not about the money

 

[VJCPatriot]

Mankins is a very principled person, its not about the money

It's always about the money. The dispute arises because the uncapped year in 2010 made Mankins an RFA when he would have otherwise been a FA free to test out the market. It was really the CBA expiring that screwed Mankins, not necessarily Pats management.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

It's always about the money. The dispute arises because the uncapped year in 2010 made Mankins an RFA when he would have otherwise been a FA free to test out the market. It was really the CBA expiring that screwed Mankins, not necessarily Pats management.

I know, I was being facetious, hence the eyeroll. These guys always say its not about the money, it get humourous after a while.

 

[The Brandon Five]

When I consider the fact that I will have at least 5-6 years of college education by the springtime, and my salary "ceiling" will be 50-60k per year (minus obvious college loans that have been gaining interest, and will continue to do so for the next 15 yrs), I realize that I should NOT have gone to school. I should have spent all day with a tackling dummy, swilling down protein shakes, and hitting the weights.

It will take me a minimum of 12-15 years (basically TWICE as long as your projection) to make what he is slated to make in one lousy game...Now THAT'S a travesty..

I will never forgive my mother for telling me to do my homework instead of staying outside to play catch. And no batting cage and in the backyard? Talk about setting me up for failure.